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Peppy Barrel Racing 04-20-2013 05:51 PM

Color me confused.
 
Ok so I need someone to confirm my thinking because the stud my friend bred her mare to can't be cremello right lol? Basically he is supposed to be cremello and the owner of the stud said both the stud's parents are palomino so he should be a typical cremello in theory. But he sired a buckskin with a chestnut mare and that can't be possible unless he carries a black gene correct? I'm fairly certain he is homozygous agouti since all the mares he's been bred to besides sorrels have been buckskin and when bred to chestnut mare's they have been palomino besides the odd bucksin that popped out.

So basically I'm asking if he had a buckskin with a sorrel mare he HAS to be be Perlino. I have pictures of the stud and the buckskin colt but I do not own the pictures so I will PM you the pics if you would like to see them since I do not want to post pictures without permission.

farmpony84 04-20-2013 06:07 PM

removed my comment. Read the thread a forth time and understood what was being said. I'm blonde...

I am not a color expert so I'll read comments as folks post....

cobra 04-20-2013 06:10 PM

I read that as both of the stud's parents were palomino, but the stud sired a buckskin from a chestnut mare.....

Peppy Barrel Racing 04-20-2013 06:13 PM

Yes. Basically there is a cremello who's parents are supposed to be palominos, so he must me cremello by those parents. But he sired a buckskin with a chestnut so he can't be cremello lol. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I was brain storming at the same time I typed that lol.
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NdAppy 04-20-2013 07:09 PM

What's the stud's name and where is he registered.

Your basics are right palominos are red based, created a double cream red base, means that the double cream red base can't create black base with another red base.

The other question is, did the red mare get covered by a black based cream on accident after breeding with the "cremello" and the other question, was the foal DNA'd to be by the "cremello"?

Peppy Barrel Racing 04-20-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NdAppy (Post 2294113)
What's the stud's name and where is he registered.

Your basics are right palominos are red based, created a double cream red base, means that the double cream red base can't create black base with another red base.

The other question is, did the red mare get covered by a black based cream on accident after breeding with the "cremello" and the other question, was the foal DNA'd to be by the "cremello"?

He is AQHA registered Macs Magic Goldmine. The sorrel mare is owned by the stud owner and she has no other studs.
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stevenson 04-20-2013 08:03 PM

perhaps one of the sires parents is not really pali.

Peppy Barrel Racing 04-20-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenson (Post 2294521)
perhaps one of the sires parents is not really pali.

See that's the only thing that it could be.
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stevenson 04-20-2013 08:09 PM

GOLD MINE
b 1979
QUARTER HORSEROCKETS MAGIC
sor 15.2 1973
QUARTER HORSEROCKET WRANGLER*
sor 1968
QUARTER HORSEROCKET BAR*
ch 1951
THOROUGHBREDTHREE BARS*
ch 15.3 1940PERCENTAGEch 1923MYRTLE DEE*blk/br 1923GOLDEN ROCKET
1940CARTAGO1925MORSHIONbr 1928GO GALLA GO*
sor 1961
QUARTER HORSEGO MAN GO*
ch rab. 1953TOP DECK*br 1945LIGHTFOOT SIS*sor 1945LA GALLA WIN
ch 1953DIRECT WIN*ch 1947LA GALLINA V1939MAGIC SPOTS
ch 1965
THOROUGHBREDUPROAR
ch 1959
THOROUGHBREDOLYMPIA
b 1946HELIOPOLIS*b 1936MISS DOLPHINch 1934RUMPUS
ch 1953MENOW *b 1935ANTAGONISMb 1947CANDLE LIGHTER
br 1958
THOROUGHBREDFIRM GROUND*
ch 1952MIDDLEGROUNDch 1947OTRAb 1929MISS CHARGE
b 1951DEPTH CHARGE*br 16.0 1941LADY KAROch ro 1946MS PANAMA GOLD
b 1975
QUARTER HORSEANACACHO KING
br 1962
QUARTER HORSEPANAMA ACE
b 1957
QUARTER HORSESPOTTED BULL*
16 1946BULL DOG*br 1927SPOTTED BEAUTYgr 1941MISS PANAMA*
br 1943ACE OF DIAMONDSb 14.2 1920DIXIE 18sor 1937DOLLY MACK
b 1942
QUARTER HORSEACE OF DIAMONDS
b 14.2 1920 JOHNNYch ~1910SASKIS SUN DIALb ~1910BILLIE M
sor 1939LITTLE DICKsor 1911TRIXIE1925BLUES GOLDDUST
dun 1962
QUARTER HORSEMIGHTY BLUE
grul 1958
QUARTER HORSEHARVEYS RANDY
rd dun 1953BILLY MADDONrd dun 1944MISS JACK MCCUEsor 1939FIRE CITY
~1948FIRE DOGbr 1943DIANA CHRISTMASblk 1935GOLD DUST E
dun 1939
QUARTER HORSETEXAS MILLER
dun 1926SIMS YELLOW BOYdun 1922OXO MARE BY DR MACK TRAMMELL MARE
* - Photo Available



this is on allbreed pedigree.. a horse called gold mine, i copied it as it is a free site and anyone can view it.

Peppy Barrel Racing 04-20-2013 08:18 PM

Whoops I'm sorry it's Magic Macs Goldmine. Dyslexia strikes again!
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