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Ashleysmardigrasgirl 04-20-2013 08:33 PM

wanted to share some photos of ground driving :D
Feel free to critique my hand position/whip position/any position from what little you get from the pictures :lol: ... I'd like to do this right so am open to suggestions. Today, we worked on "not eating while working" since the grass is imminent which, ended up going pretty well! I tell her "UP!" and started to jiggle the reins (initially) until she brings her head back up. She seemed to get it pretty quick and was responding by voice only within a few corrections and then not even trying after that.

we're doing everything in a rope halter right now. So feel free to laugh at my get up :lol:

trying not to move from the "woah" position but, still see what he's holding. While I try to figure out where to go since the arena got snaked from me, LOL.

She did very well despite being teased with all of the fresh spring grass whichi, she hasn't gotten to have much of yet.

Ashleysmardigrasgirl 04-20-2013 08:49 PM

getting some much needed/deserved grass.

Clayton Taffy 04-20-2013 08:54 PM

Looking good!! She is so cute!

In the second photo, can't really tell, but just in case, remember that your hands move North and south , not east and west.
In the third photo,I know you are using a halter but get used to having more contact with her head. You are not really giving her any direction, she is just going along willy-nilley, then when you turn her or any adjustment it's like a "where did that come from, jolt in the mouth", even with the softest hands. Where as if you have contact already, any correction or turn is a much smoother transaction.
More contact will help with grass eating too.

greentree 04-20-2013 09:06 PM

She is really cute!! And the children are darling!
Has the horse had a bit in her mouth? I am one of those old/old-fashioned people who thinks the ground driving in a halter is not much good for anything, except exercise.


Ashleysmardigrasgirl 04-20-2013 09:07 PM

Good point, I'm getting "tighter" in my hands I feel like with every time I work with her. Honestly with the snow and mud we've been having I've found it near impossible to work with her so my practice time has been limited. for clarification, in the second photo I was trying to signal a left turn but, she was previously resisting the bend so I nudged her gently on the inside flank with my whip while nudging her with the inside rein is that alright? or is there a more appropriate way to deal with that?



Ashleysmardigrasgirl 04-20-2013 09:10 PM

Honestly nancy, I'm mostly just patience building right now so it works out really well for my purposes. Also, my hand position for lack of a better word, is crap and I don't want to torture her while I learn. >.<

Thanks, my brother and sister love her!

Clayton Taffy 04-20-2013 09:19 PM

It is very hard to get any bend or heck even much of a turn with a halter, and a loose halter to boot. But I don't know if you have had a snaffle or anything in her mouth yet. If you have not and want to wait a bit to bit her, you can keep ground driving her, getting her used to having you behind her, and getting used to the whip.

But she looks good, keeping between the reins, not trying to turn around, stopping starting.

I wouldn't start her pulling or dragging anything without a bit, you never want her to get scared and get away from you. So before a drag make sure she stops with a bit.

Ashleysmardigrasgirl 04-20-2013 09:24 PM

oh no, I would never put her to without a bit. She has had a bit in her mouth and did well. Like I said though I'm working on me now and don't want to make her bit sour by me trying to learn to run behind her without banging on her. I'm getting better and have been telling myself every time I go out that I'm going to ground drive her with my three piece loose ring snaffle but, I've been having fun "playing" in the halter so haven't gotten to doing it now with a bridle yet... It's also been nice because I've noticed a big difference in how responsive she is to light aids.

She's progressing really well. I printed a copy of the driven dressage test and when the arena is not a giant pool of mud and sand, we've been practicing training level 1. Also, figure 8's and driving from both sides.

Clayton Taffy 04-20-2013 10:25 PM

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Yes, I wrote that before I saw your post. I know you wouldn't hitch without a bit, but wouldn't even pull a drag or a tire without a bit.

You rein position in your hands? I left my camera at work, I want to show you better way to hold your reins and whip.

This is the best photo I could find at the moment. You might need to download it then zoom in on my hands.

There are a number of ways to hold the reins, I like this one, The reins come into your hands from the bottom of your palms, under your pinkie.
On the whip hand, the right the rein enters under your pinkie, goes over your palm and exits your fingers between your index and middle finger. Then your whip lays across your palm and exits your hand between the index and thumb. The whip is held at a 45 degree angle upwards, and a 45 degree angle forwards.

The non whip hand, the left, the reins enter the hand from the bottom, below the pinkie, lay across your palm and exit the hand between the thumb and index.

Holding the reins this way, gives me the ability to loosen and squeeze my bottom two fingers to, play with or massage or que my horse, just a little jiggle of my finger and I can tell my horse ahead of time which way we are going to turn, or if we are going to just do something different. You can communicate with your horse much better by holding the reins this way.

I will try for photos tomorrow, I'm not very good at explaining verbally.

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littrella 04-21-2013 09:00 AM

OP, looks good! I too am working on getting my guy to stand still after whoa. Actually stand still period! He's a wiggle worm. :)

Taffy, I like the description of the way you hold the reins. Sounds much easier than what I'm being taught

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