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Lexiie 04-21-2013 06:52 PM

Bragging and a question
Recently my mare has been able to really follow me at the trot, I can make my posts smaller and she REALLY tries to follow me. It's not perfect but I am so proud. I think it's hard for her, since she has a natural gait and a huge stride at the trot but she's giving it her all and becoming more balanced! I am very proud of my baby girl(:

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Her canter is very odd. Nice in the front but very short in the back. It's really hard for me to sit and roll with her. If I don't sit she seems to be too much in the forehand, but when I do sit, she's getting tripped up from my lack of being able to follow and stay in sync.
We've been trying to circle and she almost always breaks to a pace. I don't know how to get her more balanced and onto her butt.
I wad thinking maybe lunging in the round pen, but I don't know how to get her working correctly. I've read so many articles and so many threads and i'm really at a loss. Any ideas?
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Thrill Ride 04-21-2013 07:19 PM

My thoroughbred is the same way, really big in the front with her stride.

I would work on figure 8s, and circles, I make my TB keep her nose a little tucked in and I drive her with my seat.

Lunging helped us a lot, we have a smaller round pen and she learned to control her stride a lot in there. Maybe try lunging with side reins on her? It helped my horse and another horse I have a lot, and it also helped when I took them off. But if you do decide to use them keep them loose at first and slowly make them shorter.

Lexiie 04-21-2013 07:21 PM

I would have to teach her lead changes for figure eights I believe. That's my summer project.
I was considering using side reins again, but i've always been a bit hesitant to use things like that
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tinyliny 04-21-2013 07:44 PM

I think that transitions are always a good way to build up a hrose's balance, and I think balance has got to be a big part of the problem.

Could you post a video ?

Lexiie 04-21-2013 08:06 PM

Not until Wednesday night /:
What would you like to see?
Transitions and trying to canter on a circle? Or just lunging?

loosie 04-22-2013 07:39 AM

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I thought at first you were talking about your horse running with you on the ground when you did. Actually teaching her this, to follow your movements on the ground, either loose or on a long(loose) lead is a great exercise(for both of you!), & for balance when you do lots of fast/slow/stop/start/turn/back. Ensuring she's well balanced without a rider first is also helpful in working out what's going wrong if she can't do it with a rider. Especially as S/I problems are so common, I'd get her checked out physically first, if you haven't yet done so & recheck saddle fit to ensure she *can* use her hind end properly first.

Not a fan of lunging for exercise for a few reasons. Hill work is a great thing for building the hind end & long reining can also be good, for that & balance.

Lexiie 04-22-2013 09:22 PM

She just had a vet check a few months ago (when she comes out again for shots, I'll have her check)
She didn't notice anything except sore back muscles (lots of hard work that week) she gave us some surpass and we were fine.
She's never been unwilling to move out or go. I haven't seen anything but improvement in the four years, but then again, I'm no professional.

I'll recheck the saddles, I know they're not PERFECT, but they fit pretty darn nicely.
What would treatment be if she did have damage/injury to the S/I joint?
I'm really curious about that, could it really last that long? She's always been "lazy" with her butt, at the canter at least, very hard for me to get her to engage.

loosie 04-22-2013 11:59 PM

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What is 'surpass' that the vet gave you? What was that for? Sore muscles can also indicate magnesium deficiency and hard work is one of the things known to deplete the body of Mg.

Of course I have no idea about your particular vet, what she may be specialised in or such, but just as vets aren't necessarily knowledgeable about hooves, they also may not know much about skeletal/joint issues. So just as your GP wouldn't be the best person to go to if your back was out, a good bodyworker(veterinary chiro or such) would be more appropriate for a horse, to rule out/treat.

I'm not a bodyworker, so can't tell you what the specific treatment would be exactly, but it would depend what's wrong for a start. As for 'can it last that long' I'm not sure what you mean by that, but if there was an injury at some time, depending what the problem is, of course if it isn't treated, it can get progressively worse over time.

IME, chances are, if she's a willing & forward horse & has a strong front end, but is 'lazy' with her hind(which should be the 'powerhouse' & easier for her than pulling herself along with her front), there's likely a physical reason for it.

Lexiie 04-23-2013 07:28 AM

What I meant by asking if it could last that long is that she's always been like that. My instructor had her for 7 years and her canter was always like that.
She canters in the from but almost paces in the back.

The vet gave me surpass, a cream to put on her back. She had an abscess and wasn't even lame a tiny bit off, but we assumed it was being in a softer footing. She was compensating in a weird way that caused her to strain her back. She was out of work for maybe two weeks, then we started lunging for a week, then walking under saddle for a while and then trotting, cantering took a while.

I was wondering if she could have had an injury to the S/I joint 7 years ago and have it last that long and never get worse/
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loosie 04-23-2013 07:55 AM

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Many body/hoof problems start way back & take years to develop into anything major. Some never get too bad without treatment, some do. Assuming your trainer is competent, if she had him for years & couldn't get him using his hind end, there's another thing that makes a physical prob the more likely culprit IMO.

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