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Aesthetic 04-21-2013 09:46 PM

APHA Stallion for stud, Chief
 
Chief is a 2004 APHA stallion. He's black and white tobiano. He's homozygus black and white and tobiano. His second foal hits the ground within a month.
He's started on poles and barrels, only three months of training on both. He's up for live covering and shipped semen(:

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Aesthetic 04-21-2013 09:55 PM



Third time ever on the pattern.

NdAppy 04-24-2013 02:28 PM

Homozygous for what exactly? OWLs status? What genetic testing had been done?

In all honesty if you're serious get some professional or extremely well done conformation photos, post a stud fee and what not. Right now you AF smacks of something that could be found in Craigslist and not like an ad that is taken seriously.

Aesthetic 04-24-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NdAppy (Post 2332561)
Homozygous for what exactly? OWLs status? What genetic testing had been done?

In all honesty if you're serious get some professional or extremely well done conformation photos, post a stud fee and what not. Right now you AF smacks of something that could be found in Craigslist and not like an ad that is taken seriously.

I normally get messages for people who are serious about him. We havent made an ad out exactly because we dont have the photography to do so or the patience for a photographer.Hes homozygus black and white and homozygus tobiano pattern. His stud fee isnt actually up, because its debatable. Weve just recently decided to put him up. For his first breedig we are taking offers on what the owelner of a mare will pay considering he doesnt have any earnings from large rodeos. Hes inly recently started running. For my first time puttig him up, my job is just to show what and who he is. I message, text, or call details on him. Hence the reason some of his information is missing.

CCH 04-24-2013 03:19 PM

Have you had him tested for the At form of agouti? His sire is bay and his dam's sire is clearly brown, so it is possible he is brown too. I'm no bay/black/brown expert, but to me he looks brown/ heavy faded black in his registration photo. A horse can be homozygous for black and still carry At.

Also, I note that he has not gone through the stallion listing process or DNA typing with APHA. If you plan on registering current/future foals with APHA, I would suggest doing that. APHA also has a nice online website where you can keep up with breeding reports too.

PaintHorseMares 04-24-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CCH (Post 2333137)
Also, I note that he has not gone through the stallion listing process or DNA typing with APHA. If you plan on registering current/future foals with APHA, I would suggest doing that. APHA also has a nice online website where you can keep up with breeding reports too.

If you expect Paint folks, you need that stallion listing with the APHA. Without it, you can't get the breeding certificate without which someone can't register the foal (without a tremendous hassle).
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Aesthetic 04-24-2013 08:28 PM

He's currently in the process of actually going through. The previous owner before us didn't care to re-register him, and he also didn't sign his papers. We are fighting with APHA and the previous owner to try and speed the process of his papers. His test is actually in APHA, but he hasn't been listed on their site. As for testing, Yes everything has been tested EXCEPT his gene for dilute.
His father is actually I believe a sorrel paint? I haven't looked in a while. Both father and grandfather were run over a cliff. So I don't believe there are many pictures available. I can call and check record. He for sure is a black and white stallion. As for expecting anyone to breed, he is open to any breed, currently going to breed a few jutlands I believe next spring when they come of age.

stevenson 04-24-2013 08:34 PM

what is a "jutland" ? do you mean shetland as in pony ? If he is not registered NOW, and you breed, his foals may not be able to be registered .. you should not list him as a registered horse until you have his papers in hand..
You can take photos with any camera, just take a ton of them .

stevenson 04-24-2013 08:36 PM

i see the spots , peacock spots. so that is why she is saying homozygous but the horse needs tested if she is going to stand it at stud

Honeysuga 04-24-2013 08:38 PM

So you arent trying to add anything to the paint breed?...since youll breed him to just anything. What you are saying is you have a stallion you find pretty but hasnt been proven and doesnt have all the proper registry paperwork done but you just want him to make babies?
Im sorry but that is imo what is wrong in the industry right now. Too many bybs willing to breed an unproven stallion to anything he can cover...
Before you go posting him for stud you may want to all of his information(genes,dilutions,pedigree,complete sire and dam info,training and performance records,terms,conformation photos) instead of "heres a pretty horse with a pair, breed to him"...
Just my .02
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