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BarrelRacer67 04-24-2013 01:44 AM

I don't think he's not colicing but something is off.
 
So the basics.

New 2 year old colt, just came last week. He's settled in great and is loving it here. Then I went to feed him and my other horse at lunchtime today, I found him laying down almost up against the barn, breathing hard and kinda hot. He got up as soon as I asked but he was just acting 'blah'. He was acting normal after about 30 minutes so my trainer and I jumped on him and walked and occasionally trotted him around for about 30 minutes. I don't know what it did but he was fine for the next 2 hours. I went down around 4pm and gave him half a dose of wormer because it's that time and I was going to give him the other half tomorrow. Anyway, I went back down around 7 and he was breathing hard and laying down again but not rolling. I got him up and walked for a minute then he cooled down and was back to his normal self, begging for food and was mad when I wouldn't give him anything but hay. I left him in the stall because he's weird and loves his stall. Go back down at 11:30 and he's down again, breathing hard and sweating. Got him up and he was shifting his feet and swishing his tail but that was pretty much it. I would walk him for minute when he would start acting uncomfortable, then he was fine. He did not want to move after he would feel better. I'm trying to find something on the internet and I'm finding all these different things it could be.
  • What's getting me is he's been urinating and pooping all day with no problem. I can poke all around his belly and he is fine with it. Once he gets cooled down, he's fine.Couple hours later, he does it again.
I know once thing for sure.I'm calling the vet as soon as I can. I just wanted to see if y'all had any idea what it could be.

DancingArabian 04-24-2013 09:58 AM

No idea. Hope he's okay - sending jingles.
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Speed Racer 04-24-2013 10:00 AM

Could be a very mild gas colic. With the weather going from cold to warm to hot then back to cold, a lot of horses are being affected.

deserthorsewoman 04-24-2013 10:18 AM

What wormer did you give?
Was he wormed for tapeworm?
Tapeworm can cause these bouts of mild colic, no rolling, no constipation, just a belly ache, going on for some time.

Blue Smoke 04-24-2013 01:10 PM

I would be treating it as colic until the vet could get out there.

A bit of a story to tell: At a large facility I used to board at there was a very nice reining gelding who would constantly kick his stall and break the door in the evening, had been doing the same thing for close to 3 years, but would only do this after he ate. It was thought to be a behavior issue, nobody thought colic. They put a trip hobble on him (hobbled both fronts with a line to each rear so if he kicked out he'd pull his front feet out from under himself in a last ditch attempt to persuade him to quit destroying stalls. I hated that they did this, but he was destroying property and they are some of the most highly regarded horsemen in the state so I didn't question their methods) I was out there late at night, around 10 or 11 or so and heard thrashing, he was down, couldn't get up, and was full blown colicing. I untied his legs, got him up, started walking him out and called BM which called vet and owner. Normally I would never go into another boarders stall and tamper with their horse, but this poor horse was clearly in distress. Vet came out, oiled and banamine, no luck. Brought him to their facility where they performed emergency exploratory colic surgery, they discovered he had a large section of intestine that was knotted and some was starting to die, they removed something like 12ft. Where it was knotted loosely gas would build up and cause him pain, hence the kicking, and the vet guessed he had this knot for nearly 3 years and the hobbling just aggravated the issue that night since kicking out is what helped move the gas along, and he wasn't able to do so. Anyway, if I hadn't been there that night he would have died according to the vet. Apparently last check was done around 9pm and he looked fine and normal then.

I guess my moral here is to not rule out colic because he isn't showing classic signs, have your vet out to check him ASAP. If it turns out to be nothing, great, but if it is something, quick action may be the difference between life and death.

BarrelRacer67 04-24-2013 03:40 PM

I used Safe-Guard on him. He's been fine since 2 am and when I fed him a little bit ago, he got hot and started sweating again so I got him away from the food and he was fine. He's drinking, pooping and all of that and he was acting completely normal when I got him out of the pasture. I'm just confused.

deserthorsewoman 04-24-2013 04:04 PM

What did you feed, grain/sweetfeed?
I would not give him any to see if he stays normal. If he does, it could be an allergy to something in the feed or ulcers. Time to call a vet then.

deserthorsewoman 04-24-2013 04:05 PM

Oh, toothache is possible too. It can take horses off their feet, literally.

BarrelRacer67 04-24-2013 04:37 PM

I have him on regular 12% sweet feed and he's eating grass and hay with no problem, so it could be an allergy. But wouldn't that produce some mucus? Because his nose is clear. And I never thought about a toothache! He's eating everything else fine, though.

deserthorsewoman 04-24-2013 04:47 PM

Food allergy. Not respiratory.
Teeth can be a reason, he's starting to change them now, grain is hard, might be hurting him, hence the sweating and laying down.
I think calling a vet out is a good idea. Point him to teeth, some vets just won't include teeth in their thinking with these symptoms.
You can try pelleted feed, soaked, to see if he eats that without problems. A handful at first, tho.


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