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Artemis 04-26-2013 11:12 AM

Please critique our jumpin =)
So me and these two lovely ladies have been working together for more than a year now. After such a long time I would like to get myself back to the earth and have some good second opinion on both me and the horses when it comes to jumping.

The bay mare is an old jumper who knows her job and does it well. I only train with her and don't compete so we have been taking it easy and trying to teach me.

The grey mare is still a diamond in rough. She comes with a long story but to make it short when we started it took me 10-15 laps to get her back from gallop to walk/trot after I just touched her with my leg. we have come a long and rocky way but she´has been worth all these tears and pain. Last week we made our first and successful dressage competition and in 2 days we are finally able to make our very first eventing star =)

I misjudged the distance coming from the turn and we ended up coming too close to that one.

PurpleMonkeyWrench 04-26-2013 11:34 AM

No critique here other then release. More release. gorgeous horses and i like the brown horses form over the fences.

Stilton 04-26-2013 11:46 AM

It seems like you are hanging on the horses mouth in a few pictures. You definitely need a softer release and more weight in your leg/heel so that your are not hanging on the horses mouth for balance. There's a few pictures where you got in close to the fence, use bounces and poles to help your get your striding correct.

In the first flat picture your lower leg needs to be more underneath you not swinging back, this is likely due to the very short (jumping??) stirrups. You need to shorten your reins and bring your hands further in front of you. Wrists straight and thumbs up!

onuilmar 04-26-2013 11:46 AM

Heels down.

In at least a few of the jumps, your legs have swung back and you are in danger of pitching forward. I am not sure whether you jumped ahead or if the horse jumped so flat that it pulled you forward.

If the latter is the case, let the reins slide through your fingers. It needs to extend its neck, but it's dangerous for you to be pulled out fo the tack. If you let the reins slide, you can stay in position. Just gather up the reins once you land.

texasgal 04-26-2013 11:51 AM

LOL .. my only critique are the tennis shoes you appear to be wearing in the first picture...

To some folks it's helmets... to me, boots.

Flipper 04-26-2013 02:28 PM

I would personally lower the jumps a bit for a while and go do a bit of muscle strengthening and I don't mean this in a harsh way but I will explain my reasoning!

I would say the photos suggest that your position (meaning core,leg strength etc.) isn't quite strong enough for the height and the result is your seat is not strong enough so you are hanging on to the reins as support causing you to be pulled forward out of your seat, sometimes further unbalancing you causing a vicious cycle!

So I would suggest getting into that two point on a lunge with loose reins or simply riding round in lots of two point provided the horse is same enough to not take this as a go faster cue (maybe avoid doing this on the grey from the sound of it! Haha) to improve strength before going quite this high!

Hopefully this is helpful and I do not mean this comment as any offence as that is a very high jump in my opinion!

Flipper 04-26-2013 02:31 PM

Also just adding to my previous comment perhaps doing slightly wider jumps (i want to say oxers but can't remember if that is the correct term!) so the motion isn't so up and down which is harder to keep your position and is more of a smooth curve!

Artemis 04-26-2013 02:43 PM

Thank you all guys =)

About the release. I agree completely that it could be better. Specially with the bay. I will try to practice it with her. But at the same time if they do not ask more? The thing is I tried giving more with the grey one at some point and the rein just ended up being loose since she did not ask/need (?) more an I lost my contact during the jump.

With the leg you mean i should have heels more down? I'm an eventer at the moment and have done a lot of XC training lately. I'm pretty sure my show jumping form has changed due that one as well :(
All the weigh is in the stirrup ;P It's just that I don't push the heel down but instead "stand" on the ball of my foot. That way it is easier to maintain the two-point and my gravity point stays correct. So in regular jumping I should try to go back with the heel down more to prevent the leg sliding back? It doesn't affect my balance whatsoever in the saddle as far as I can feel.

texasgal - waah I know :D I was not supposed to ride her there I was just watching but the girl had some problems so i went up for a little to see what it exactly was. They look (and feel) awful xD
Stiltion - yep the first flat one the stirrups were short for me =)

Artemis 04-26-2013 02:52 PM

Flipper thank you =)
I will be training more two point with my horses for a while.
Actually the main reason I wanted this critique was to get another opinion about my lower leg. These pictures are taken right after I got back into jumping after my injury (ripped a ligament of my right ankle). After all your advise I will take it low for another month at least at the moment and then see how my form is.
Do you think I could still compete up to 3'3? I'm used to going up to 4'1 in the competitions but that has to wait a little bit more ;)

Corporal 04-26-2013 03:10 PM

Both horses are good jumpers. First photo, no matter how tempting it is to warm up and hack in sneakers, say NO. Boots support your whole leg INCLUDING a healing ankle injury. Those shoes can slip right through English stirrups. I agree that you hang on the bay's mouth a bit. I love who both horses tuck--nice and scopey. What breed (s)?

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