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moorland 11-25-2008 03:18 PM

18 month old
 
i'm helping with an 18 month old .to be honest ,it's interesting :shock:
he's gone backwards at a rate of knots in the couple of days ,he's spooky at the best of times is this normal in youngsters ,worked with difficult horses before but never youngsters,he's turned out daily ,although not today .turning him out yesterday ,we had a bolt off and then it took three hours to lead him in (he had 4 hours out ,lead the shetland in first and he still wasn't moving ),not to catch him just to move him ,the stables are 25 feet away ,he's lead out behind a 22 year old shetland to help the spooking :roll:,he doesn't like women ,so they phoned my husband to bring him ,poor bloke it's the first horse he's ever lead:lol:,he's very quiet and gentle when he handles ,he would not have his head collar back on today ,so he couldn't go out ,not normally a problem ,we are slowly increasing the grooming i can get half way down his back which is an imrovement ,what he normally does is turns his bum to you and then spooks into a wall:roll:or into you ,he was ment to be well handled ,rugging is impossible ,if you move a rug near him he flies into the nearest wall (rug is now hung over wall:wink:),there are no trainers here ,with experirence ,so it's up to us ,we are open minded and can spend hours a day and go as slowly as he needs ,any books that would help ect ,we enjoy a challenge :roll:,he was a meathorse brought by somebody and then passed to to us after a couple of months ,she said she had no problems with him although in a later phone call she said he can be spooky

free_sprtd 11-25-2008 03:44 PM

Sounds pretty normal for a baby....especially if they were never handled or "imprinted" after birth. Just take it slow like you are, and once he gets to know you, things will start to show. Baby's can be highstrung so it can be normal if he is jumpy. Have you checked him over to make sure nothing is causing him pain? It could be possible that he has an ouchie somewhere and is not wanting people to come near. I really think though, that it's just a baby attitude, but of course im not there. It can take months of handling before you notice a difference. Also, with baby's and training, they will make 2 steps forward, 1 step back lol. They will degress often, but as they mature, things will be more consistent. If you have a round pen or an arena you can work on bonding and touching, ect. Better to do those things in a small controlled environment rather than tied. As for bringing him in, you just need to work on leading A LOT....respect, and personal space. With my little guy, we spent months on leading and I could of swore he would never get it! But finally things just clicked. He's 2 1/2 now, and he still gets stubborn when entering the arena, or coming in from being turned out all day. Good luck!

highlander 11-25-2008 04:52 PM

thanks, moorland is helping with me with riley, she has really really helped. I was really worried that maybe we had taking a wrong turn in this process. I now currently now have a horse from a woman i used to ride for, the lad broke her arm (he's a cracker! with us until her arm mends). so could it be that this new horse that he gets on with so well, has put him back? he's normally so good but i'm so worried as this is my first yearling and i want to keep him for the rest of his life so i don't wanna mess up.:oops: its too important.
how can we help him now?:-)

free_sprtd 11-25-2008 04:56 PM

hmmmm horses are herd animals as you know, so it could be that this other horse is rubbing off on him....im not too sure, ive only raised a baby and he is turned out alone. hopefully someone else can help with that question. sorry!

GottaRide 11-25-2008 06:23 PM

Every horse is different. My Paint yearling gelding (he's 19 months old) is super quiet and never spooks. He wasn't worked with much before I got him, but he was handled. Simple stuff like leading, grooming, and general vet & farrier work. It is just his nature to be accepting of new things (and very curious of them!). I've worked with a few other youngsters previously that were quiet like this as well.

Good luck with your yearling. Good thing you like a challenge, because that's what you've got.

smrobs 11-25-2008 07:11 PM

I understand what it is like to have a really spooky horse, my mustang was like that when we got him. If you keep him stalled, I would just stand in there with him. Don't try to make him stand next to you, just be around him and work your way up to touching him all over. A round pen would work great for that as well. Just give him time and keep working with him. One of these days it will "click" and he will make a huge jump in progress. Good luck. :)

highlander 11-26-2008 07:40 AM

thanks guys:D. riley was weaned very early, and has alot of things many class as issues( i may agree with a few) i never make him stand beside me, but he does that of his own accord.
He has been much better today, still no head collar but i stood with his bucket and now we seem to be back on the page. til next time.:lol::lol:

moorland 12-02-2008 12:50 PM

thank you for you're help ,riley's back on the page now ,he's ok again with his head collar ,and he's learning to have his feet picked up ,and the brushing he doesn't mind ,but perfures horse grooming:wink:
does anyone mind if i ask another question ,a freind brought a horse at the same time from the same seller ,2 and a half years old ,he's scared ,shakes like a jelly it's been 3 months and she hasn't been able to touch him yet ,in fact she's had a wild new forest pony that she has managed to get closer than him ,she has brought on youngesters before ,but his legs look as if they are going to collase he shakes so much ,she has got to the stage were she sits in his stable with the food bowl on her knee ,but a touch from a hand and he flys into the corner turns his bum towards her and shakes again ,she's taking it nice and easy and will continue to do that ,she said he missed a gap in the fence the other day when he was galloping around and decided to jump it and cleared over 3 feet ,great jump on him and then jumped something else for fun ,with a spread:shock:
stabled at night ,and in the feild during the day ,he follows her out to the feild ,and follows back in the evening into the stable ,she's spending along time with him ,just sitting feeding a few small feeds ,would you be doing anything different or any tips

appylover31803 12-02-2008 12:54 PM

Is there a small, private paddock your friend can take the horse into? If there is I suggest she put him in there. She should bring a chair or a bucket and sit on it and a book to read. I would stay in there, ignoring him, until he came up to me and was OK with me petting him. (this will most likely take numerous sessions since he is so skiddish). This would all be done when HE is ready for human contact, and there would be no food enticing him either.

moorland 12-02-2008 01:06 PM

the horse is at her own place ,he has an acre fenced off ,although he'll have 5 acres in the end ,although he is going to have a smaller one put up ,the stable ,is hers as well ,just out side the back door so she spends a lot of time with him without food as well as with ,i'm sure it'll click one day :wink:,with both of these horses we really are not sure what happened to them ,they'll be good in traffic though don't care when traffic goes past either of their feilds ,dogs ,sheep ect don't worry them ,thank you:D for your help


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