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SlowZippen14 05-10-2013 09:13 PM

Acting strange
 
Hi guys!

I have had my 14 year old gelding for about a year now, and its been good for the most part. Today we had a rain/thunderstorm for about an hour. I don't know if my horse was frightened by all the thunder, because when i bring him in i have to turn him around to shut the gate behind me. As i turned around he didn't rear but kind of came off his front feet and had his ears pinned and had a strange look in his eye like something was wrong. Anytime in the past my horse has tried running past me while being led i just disengaged his hind quarters until he would walk at my pace, so thats what I did because it happened so fast not knowing if he was injured or not. I looked him over didn't see any cuts or could tell if he was sore anywhere. But he has been out with a mare that is in heat and she flaunts her stuff for him and it seems like he is annoyed by this because he is always trying to get away from her. So my question is do you guys think it was the thunder that startled him or the mare in heat?

Thanks

toto 05-10-2013 09:20 PM

If his ears were pinned (touching his halter) he was not afraid or startled- its aggressive behavior.

geldings can act strange when mares go into heat too even though they have no.. reproductive organs.. yeah. Could be old age-- older horses can become pretty crabby.

Did he try to attack you or the mare?

SlowZippen14 05-10-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by toto (Post 2480273)
If his ears were pinned (touching his halter) he was not afraid or startled- its aggressive behavior.

geldings can act strange when mares go into heat too even though they have no.. reproductive organs.. yeah. Could be old age-- older horses can become pretty crabby.

Did he try to attack you or the mare?

Well there was another gelding in the the same field as well. The mare was the first to come in. When I went back to get my horse he chased the other gelding away to be the first to come in. I hate bringing him in first because its like I'm teaching him its okay to chase the other horses away to bring him in first but they run to the other side of the field and there's only one gate to bring them in from. But as far as attack I'm not sure because I made him disengage his hind quarters so fast I wasn't going to find out if it was towards me or not.

toto 05-10-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowZippen14 (Post 2480337)
Well there was another gelding in the the same field as well. The mare was the first to come in. When I went back to get my horse he chased the other gelding away to be the first to come in. I hate bringing him in first because its like I'm teaching him its okay to chase the other horses away to bring him in first but they run to the other side of the field and there's only one gate to bring them in from. But as far as attack I'm not sure because I made him disengage his hind quarters so fast I wasn't going to find out if it was towards me or not.

Dont worry youre not teaching him to chase the horses away by bringin him in first-- if he chases all the other horses away hes the alpha horse and nothing you can do could change that. Its who he is in the pecking order. Id say its more dangerous for you to bring the other horses in while hes behind them chasing them.. or even when hes in your hands-- especially with a mare thats in heat. They can be annoying to the geldings and can cause them to change their behavior. Thats why most people wont pasture geldings with mares-- they can be hussies, lol. :-P

Id bring him in first, put him away then bring in the others.




Good deal. I think you did the right thing with the disengagement of the hindend before it escalated into somethin bad. :thumbsup: never let them get away with that kinda behavior in-hand.

SlowZippen14 05-10-2013 09:51 PM

Thanks I'm a big Clinton Anderson fan. It seems he is always chasing problem horses in circles, but I would rather not always have to do this. I will try separating the mare from the geldings and see what happens. Hope this works thanks for your input!

tinyliny 05-10-2013 09:59 PM

I agree with Toto on this.

it seems that this is aggresive or emotional behavior not based in fear, but rather impatience or defensiveness or simply a minor tantrum. Your response was correct. You always do what ever it takes to get his mind back on you, and keep him out of your space., regardless of whatever "reason" he might have for being pissy. There is NO acceptable reason, so it's irrelevant.

SlowZippen14 05-10-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tinyliny (Post 2480585)
I agree with Toto on this.

it seems that this is aggresive or emotional behavior not based in fear, but rather impatience or defensiveness or simply a minor tantrum. Your response was correct. You always do what ever it takes to get his mind back on you, and keep him out of your space., regardless of whatever "reason" he might have for being pissy. There is NO acceptable reason, so it's irrelevant.

Thank you. Owning a horse and having other horses at the barn can be pretty hectic at times if not frustrating when people try telling you how to raise/train your horse. It's my horse and thats that I'm going to try teaching him the way I have seen men and women teach horses for a living

Saddlebag 05-11-2013 09:24 AM

If given a choice horses will opt to stay outside in a storm. A storm plays havoc with their sense of smell and hearing so they like to be able to flee a perceived predator. The barn has it's own noises which add additional stress to the horse and you want to put it in a cage where it feels trapped. He might have been trying to tell you this. I wouldn't necessarily see it as disprespect.

Skyseternalangel 05-13-2013 09:36 PM

He was probably not feeling like this was a good idea and trying to take charge in the only way horses know how.. warning signs. Good on you for correcting him, and then checking him for any injuries.

:)


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