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Cowgirls Boots 05-11-2013 07:27 PM

What are the differences between these two shoes?
 
So what are the differences between these two shoes, if any? My gelding needs his shoes on or else he's lame. The shoe I took a picture of in my hand are the shoes he had on previously. I recently switched back to my old farrier who uses what I call the 'flat' shoe. It just looks flat overall. The old shoe he had on seemed to be more rolled at the toe. So what are the differences and opinions on the two?

Current shoe-
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...FAF41994A0.jpg
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...FAEA1CB1F8.jpg

Old shoe-
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...FB0E2B4742.jpg
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...FB18C73A83.jpg
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michigancowgirl 05-11-2013 07:40 PM

The rolled toe helps with the break over as the hoof rolls from the heel to the toe during movement. Why is your gelding lame when he has no shoes? I have one that is the same way and the vet wants him to have a rolled toe to help with his break over....

Cowgirls Boots 05-11-2013 08:13 PM

I'm not sure why he's lame without shoes. He's sound at a walk but dead lame at a trot. The farrier out hoof testers on him and all was well besides one little spot we think was a stone bruise. Vet and farrier both said he has a nice hoof. I asked the farrier why he would think my geldings lame without shoes and his reply was basically look at the amount of padding the shoes have vs being barefoot. Didnt answer my question, though. I like the rolled toe shoe better as my gelding already is lazy and tends to trip alot. I haven't ridden him with these new shoes on yet as he bent the old one and I wanted to let him rest a few days before riding so not sure if there will be any difference
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hemms 05-11-2013 08:45 PM

Shoes create numbness/lack of feeling for terrian, hence the tripping.

If your farrier is pearing out your horse's soul before you trot him on gravel, he will absolutely be sore.

If you can find a good barefoot trimmer, you might try that route. There is a small percentage of recreational horses that can't be healthier barefoot, imo.
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Cowgirls Boots 05-11-2013 09:00 PM

My gelding is also real lazy and doesn't pick up his feet. I bought him with shoes, wasnt told he needed them and had them pulled all winter. He's always sound at the walk and I didnt ride him so needless to say when I had the shoes put back on he was ouchy. I asked my farrier about pads and he said he didn't think my gelding needed them because he didnt have a 'flat foot'.
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hemms 05-11-2013 09:14 PM

Just yanking shoes is NOT the same as barefoot trimming. A convensional farrier's 'pasture trim' does not leave the horse with any natural protection.

For your horse's health, educate yourself on hoof function. The Horse's Hoof, News for Barefoot Hoofcare is a great place to start.

And my gelding redifined lazy. He rarely trips.
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Cowgirls Boots 05-11-2013 09:27 PM

I know that just yanking the shoes isn't a barefoot trim.. Lol
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walkinthewalk 05-11-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowgirls Boots (Post 2488089)
My gelding is also real lazy and doesn't pick up his feet. .
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Did you start a thread on that issue awhile back? If you didn't, I read something similar about another horse and my reply was to have a chiro look at the horse.

Often times it's discomfort and not laziness that makes a horse slog along and drag their feet.

I rescued an Arab 20 years ago that, along with starving, had an injured vertebra. When he starts dragging his toes and/or he is off at the trot, I know it's time for the chiropractor again:-)

Allison Finch 05-11-2013 10:42 PM

The second shoe is what we called a "rim shoe" when I ran guided pack trips into the Colorado mountains. The rim gave a bit more traction on the trails. We used them on out backcountry horses.

http://westernhorseman.com/index.php...zed-shoes.html

COWCHICK77 05-12-2013 12:10 AM

I agree with Allison, the second is a rim shoe. St. Croix makes an "Eventer" rim shoe that we used when we did a lot of pasture riding in slick grass or riding in the mountains it provides a little more traction than than the typical keg shoe posted in the first set of pics.


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