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hoofbeatsaremyheartbeats7 05-21-2013 09:51 PM

sitting or two point for learning to canter?
 
Hi! I was wondering if were you taught to canter in 2 point or sitting?

My teacher teaches me and all of her other students to canter in two point! I have never cantered sitting in her class, though i have in make up lessons with other coaches, and before being in her class. I think she says it helps students balance and learn the motion of the canter. She also supports having a very solid foundation in flat work before starting jumping so i suppose she wants us to have a strong two point for jumping.

Anyways i was wondering were you taught to canter in two point or sitting? What are your opinions on it, and what are the pros and cons of each? And how about learning to jump going into two point a few strides before the jump, rather than over the jump with the horse? Thanks!

QHriderKE 05-21-2013 10:01 PM

I've been cantering western for ever, but when I went to ride English, I found that starting in the two point or a half seat for the first few strides (or until I felt comfortable enough to sit).

I've never had a lesson or anything, im just giving you my self-taught experience.

See here (I know im not perfect in any way/shape/form)
Just asked for the canter:
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u...psfa022ef5.jpg

Once I sat down:
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps15fab19d.jpg

BornToRun 05-21-2013 10:11 PM

I've always been taught to sit the canter, unless I'm jumping and being instructed otherwise. Where I believe having good balance is beneficial, I am also a high supporter of learning to properly sit each gait. You won't be two pointing in a western or dressage saddle.

As far as my experience goes with jumping, I find it more depends on the horse when you go into your position. With my own horse, it has to be right before the jump, on another horse I used to ride it was just as he was taking off, and the horse I am riding now could really care less, she'd jump it even if you were hanging off her backwards.

Saddlebag 05-21-2013 10:31 PM

As a teen we'd "post" the canter ie: one stride would be seated and the next in two point. It helps one develope the rhythm of the canter. As the horse's hindquarters come underneath it lifts the rider in to two point then relax to sit as the horse's legs stretch out.

hoofbeatsaremyheartbeats7 05-21-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saddlebag (Post 2582761)
As a teen we'd "post" the canter ie: one stride would be seated and the next in two point.

that's really cool! I've never heard if anyone doing that before! You must have been really balanced and have a good leg, I feel like a lot of horses would try to drop out of the canter if you did that!

Skyseternalangel 05-21-2013 11:01 PM

I learned sitting. I have only cantered in 2 point after I jumped a small jump during my first ever jumping lesson.

hoofbeatsaremyheartbeats7 05-21-2013 11:03 PM

QHriderKE did you find it easier to canter in 2point and then when you were comfortable you could sit?

hoofbeatsaremyheartbeats7 05-21-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel (Post 2583081)
I have only cantered in 2 point after I jumped a small jump during my first ever jumping lesson.

did you just start jumping!?!?! That is soooo exciting!! I will probably start in the summer I can't wait!

bsms 05-21-2013 11:12 PM

I'm not a jumper. For myself, it was much easier to canter in a *******ized two-point or half seat. MY problem was that I've used that to avoid learning to sit the canter, just as many will use posting to avoid learning to sit a trot. In the last month or so, I've used a western riding style and become much better in sitting a canter and moving relaxed with it - but that technique isn't suitable for a jumper.

Here is a thread that has advice from a jumping perspective:

http://www.horseforum.com/english-ri...f-seat-120340/

Skyseternalangel 05-21-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hoofbeatsaremyheartbeats7 (Post 2583177)
did you just start jumping!?!?! That is soooo exciting!! I will probably start in the summer I can't wait!

:) Yeah I have had one lesson so far! I hope to eventually have some more so it doesn't scare me half to death, lol.

But yeah I felt safer sitting the canter than I did in two point at the walk. Once you get balanced on a horse, you can handle anything, like two point during canter or jumping, etc.


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