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KatieAndZanzibar 05-29-2013 03:52 PM

What makes a buckskin a "true" buckskin?
 
My dad was telling me what makes a buckskin a "true" buckskin.
No dorsal stripe, no markings of any kind (only the black nose and legs), and they have to be more of a light-tannish color.

About like this;

http://www.southernstyleminiatures.c...7RF-008-30.jpg


Your opinions? :-P

Dreamcatcher Arabians 05-29-2013 04:07 PM

From the ABRA site:

BUCKSKIN: Body coat some shade of tan, from very light (creme) to very dark (bronze). Points (mane, tail, legs and ear frames) are black or dark brown. Dorsal not required.

DUN: Body coat some shade of tan, from very light (creme) to a dull or smutty brown (earth tone). Points, dorsal stripe and other dun factor markings are dirty black or smutty brown. There are many shades and variations in the dun color. Dorsal stripe required. Note: The buckskin colored horse with dun factor (dorsal stripe, leg barring, ear frames, shoulder stripes, face masking and cobwebbing) is the ideal color that ABRA was founded to preserve over thirty years ago.

smrobs 05-29-2013 04:14 PM

Mmmm, yes and no.

Technically, a buckskin is nothing more than a black based horse that carries Agouti (bay agouti: A, not brown agouti: At) and cream. They can range in shade from dark golden to almost white.

They can also have the appearance of a dorsal stripe due to countershading caused by the sooty gene (as far as I know, nobody has isolated which gene causes sooty yet).

So, this is a "true" buckskin
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.50115...48673&pid=15.1

And so is this
http://morgancolors.com/mossrosetriumphant2009.jpg

And so is this. I'm sure there are other pictures out there better, but this is one of my horses. He is definitely buckskin and nothing more, but he does have a faint dorsal stripe at certain points of the year.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/DSCN1503.jpg

DeliciousD 05-29-2013 04:17 PM

Genetics.

:)

Wheatermay 05-29-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smrobs (Post 2649369)

:shock::-o:D:clap::happydance:

OMG OMG OMG OMG!! My jaw dropped! How absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!

Poseidon 05-29-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KatieAndZanzibar (Post 2649185)
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No dorsal stripe, no markings of any kind (only the black nose and legs), and they have to be more of a light-tannish color.

Why no markings?? What a hater. There are also brown-based buckskins (rather than bay, like your dad is stating) that are nearly black, like this guy:

http://www.morgancolors.com/devinegunsmoke.jpg

Most of these are still registered as buckskin because most registries don't recognize brown as a color, let alone brown + cream. Most of these are called sooty buckskin by mistake when they are actually smoky brown. Same definition as buckskin: Black + agouti + cream. Just a different agouti mutation.

KatieAndZanzibar 05-29-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Poseidon (Post 2650425)
Why no markings?? What a hater.


Like, if they were giving away a buckskin for free, just this color, markings and all;

http://www.morgancolors.com/MEMCCrownRoyal2.jpg

He'd probably say he doesn't want it because of the face and socks. :-|

He believes that a "true" buckskin doesn't have any markings, and is just like this;

http://www.southernstyleminiatures.c...7RF-008-30.jpg

Poseidon 05-29-2013 06:49 PM

Shrug. His preference, it's just not the only definition of a "true" buckskin. I know a family that's the same as your dad: they were buying a horse and were adamant that it be a buckskin. They found a lovely little mare that is awesome for them..except she has mid-cannon socks caused by the splash gene. They were upset because they wanted black legs and were jealous of mine because she only has one small white pastern.

KatieAndZanzibar 05-29-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poseidon (Post 2650641)
Shrug. His preference, it's just not the only definition of a "true" buckskin. I know a family that's the same as your dad: they were buying a horse and were adamant that it be a buckskin. They found a lovely little mare that is awesome for them..except she has mid-cannon socks caused by the splash gene. They were upset because they wanted black legs and were jealous of mine because she only has one small white pastern.


Wow :/

I don't really care what color the horse is.

A good horse is never a bad color :-P

Peppy Barrel Racing 05-29-2013 07:35 PM

A horse can technically be both buckskin and dun (dunskin). Bay + cream + dun. Like lil Jackpot!
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...2B1A57F3A7.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps8f1e0abe.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps11d0fc7a.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps2c36b238.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...9EAF0020D8.jpg
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