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ReiningGirl 05-29-2013 06:11 PM

Problem Horse - Rearing
 
Hello!

I have been working with a 5 year old quarter horse mare for about a year now, and thought her issues were resolved, when suddenly, within the last month, another habit popped up that has me concerned.

First a short bio on the horse - she was an orphan that was brought to the facility where I work as a yearling. She received a solid start, went into training and has been ridden on trails, to a show, trailered, stalled, shoed and on and on. She's been making big strides towards being a good little horse with a lot of try and a love of pleasing.

However, within the last month she's started a bad habit. I was told by a friend who rides her that she began rearing. Having never seen her do this, or had her do this while I rode her, I asked her to show me. Sure enough, as soon as the riding got underway and the rider asked her to try something new, the horse shut down, backed up, and stood up. Now, this backing up when confused was typical, but once you would walk her forward, ask again, and she understood it, she didn't do the behavior.

I asked the young lady to hop off and I wanted to see what was setting the horse off, so I got on to see if it was mixed signals, bad attitude or something else. Again, she decided what I was asking was too hard and reared. I got off, and hustled her around, using groundwork to get her attention. I suggested going back to basics - getting the horse's respect on the ground before getting back on her to curb the behavior.

Any other ideas what to do? It seems the issue has been diminishing since we've taken her back to square one, but I was curious to see what others thought of this. Thank you to any and all advice.

Muppetgirl 05-29-2013 06:28 PM

Saddle? Teeth? Sore back? Sore anywhere? A lack of a forward button? rider gripping and bracing? There could be many possibilities.

ReiningGirl 05-29-2013 06:33 PM

I know she has no soreness issues, but the lack of a forward button might be part of it, the more I think about it.

When she "shuts down" or gets tired, she tends to move backwards.

palogal 05-29-2013 06:47 PM

Whens he goes to back , bend her front end and force her to move forward. She can't rear with her front end bent. Sounds like spring fever to me :) By the time you hopped off it was too late, she got what she wanted. Really, by the time she reared it was too late. Rearing is a habit that has to be stopped before it happens.

Foxhunter 05-29-2013 07:09 PM

Assuming that all was OK with tack and health the moment she refused to go forward she would have a real wallop from the whip behind the riders leg. One on the right across the neck with the whip hand and one down to opposite side and another on the whip side. All three would be administered before she had time to blink and it would certainly drive her forward.

toto 05-30-2013 12:07 AM

Any horse iv had that would rear knowin the rider would make them not do what was asked of them- id break an egg on the horses head-- soon as their forelegs lift up off the ground even if its just a threat break the egg- makes the horse think its smashed his head and is bleeding and will calm down immediately.

One of the Peruvian pasos i rode loved to rear because his owner would go tumbling off his back- i smashed him with an egg and changed his tune immediately - he never did it again out of fear.

Another was a quarter mare with a bad attitude that would rear and i smashed the egg trick and never again.

Just a few.. I like to test things a lot 'scientifically' just to test different theories -this is one that definitely works and ive done it on over 20 different horses with positive results every time and not one would even think about rearin again.

Im not 'callin' anyone either- just my own method.

waresbear 05-30-2013 12:13 AM

If you knows she rears when she back up, don't let her back up, please! You're scaring me! When I was a youth, I saw a horse go over on a girl & kill her. Take this vice very, very seriously.

Saddlebag 05-30-2013 12:24 AM

In order to rear the horse has to plant it's back hooves, bunch it's body then go up. The horse actually tells the rider it is going to happen before it does. This is when the rider needs to get the hind quarters moving laterally allowing a little forward movement. As long as one leg is stepping under and across the horse can't brace to rear.

Palomine 05-30-2013 01:32 AM

Pop horse between ears with flat of hand, butt of crop, or egg/water balloon but only if your seat is good.

And must be done the very instant the horse gets light and starts up.

And horse has learned to do this because it is getting out of being ridden.

Could also be whoever else is riding her, has taught her to do this, thinking it is cute, and now has a major problem.

I see this all the time with girls on youtube...trying to get comments on how "good you ride" so they teach horses bad habits...

Golden Horse 05-30-2013 12:21 PM

:lol: I would so love to see the old egg trick being done, never seen it, and I know for sure that I would not have the ability to juggle an egg and deal with a pissy rank rearing horse.

I seriously question if a horse does make the connection that an egg trickling down is meant to feel like he is bleeding, I think that a good rap with a whip would be just as affective, if not as messy.


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