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emilyandgallant 05-29-2013 09:08 PM

What are the boundaries for my 13 year old Standardbred
 
I have just recently adopted a 13 year old standardbred gelding. He was a pacer and he has pin fired legs. He was raced until he was 7 then put into a trail riding retirement home. I'm not sure what happened after that but I was told he was trained to be a trail horse then sold to a family to use as just a trail horse. Anyways, he came into the rescue because his old owners did not want him anymore because he had "arthritis" and lame and he wasn't a good barrel horse. After looking at at his hooves I found out he had 2 abscesses in his hoof walls. Since they have been treated he has never been lame. He can be a little stiff in the first few minutes of riding him, and I am currently training him to trot. Anyways my question is could I ever do low jumps with him?

Left Hand Percherons 05-29-2013 11:04 PM

It would be impossible for anyone here to offer any constructive advise without physically putting our hands on him and evaluating how he moves as to his ability to stand up to the demands of jumping. I can't imagine however that a pacer would have the conformation and desire to do anything that resembles jumping.

Palomine 05-30-2013 12:06 AM

Vet would be best to advise on this, and an equine vet at that. But I think it is not a good idea.

And if he naturally paces, training him to trot might not be the best thing to do, as I would wonder about any soreness issues.

If you wanted a trotting horse, and one that would jump? You should not have gotten a pacing horse, that has had issues.

Horse was in a rescue twice now? Did you tell them you planned to undo his natural pacing and wanted him to jump?

If they thought he was going to be in a place where you would appreciate him for what he is naturally, I doubt they would be impressed to find out your plans are on something else entirely.

He's already had two strikes against him and ended up in rescue, and what you are trying to do could permanently cripple him.

I just don't understand why you want to do this to a pacing horse.

drkate 05-30-2013 04:32 PM

In my opinion, standardbreds are a very versatile breed and with patience and training can learn to do anything. Just because he is a pacer does not mean he can't trot. I work at a standardbred racetrack and have 3 retirees in my barn. They are all pacers, but they all can walk, trot, canter, and pace under saddle. If they are trained well jumping is not out of the question. I have one gelding that has old freeze fires on all 4 legs, but is a happy, sound, 19year old. Even though he is a pacer he has an amazing extended trot. The only limit to what your standardbred can do will depend on his soundness. If he is sound, then he can be trained any way you want.

loosie 05-31-2013 12:42 AM

Oh LHP & Palo, yes, pacers can certainly jump... maybe not top confo for olympic standard jumping or such, but nothing wrong with them as 'all round' horses. But agree with LHP as to whether this particular one can/should jump tho.

rookie 05-31-2013 07:10 AM

Standardbreds are great if you think they cant jump just google Bionic woman and realize that there are olympians who have competed on standardbred crosses and won gold. Its not a question of can you but should you. Have a lameness evaluation done and full work up. Pin firing can be done to try to reduce the swelling associated with splints. It has somewhat fallen out of favor but was also used to relieve swelling/tendon issues. Any horse that has those in their history indicates a serious considering before starting jumping. That said, I know a horse who had lots of surgery on his fetlock as a 6 year old after racing and he has made a dandy barrel horse and as a 18 year old horse is sound.

emilyandgallant 05-31-2013 04:45 PM

He trots naturally, only undersaddle will he pace. Let me tell you he has one of the most beautiful trots I have ever seen. I have talked every single person who has owned him and told me he never had any accidents or injuries. Every single one of them told me he is sound enough to jump and such. Expacers make wonderful HUS and hunter horses. I would adopt him over any other horse because you can't beat his personality. Oh and by the way the rescue wants me to train him to trot undersaddle and jump, he is going to represent the rescue.(:


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Originally Posted by Palomine (Post 2653577)
Vet would be best to advise on this, and an equine vet at that. But I think it is not a good idea.

And if he naturally paces, training him to trot might not be the best thing to do, as I would wonder about any soreness issues.

If you wanted a trotting horse, and one that would jump? You should not have gotten a pacing horse, that has had issues.

Horse was in a rescue twice now? Did you tell them you planned to undo his natural pacing and wanted him to jump?

If they thought he was going to be in a place where you would appreciate him for what he is naturally, I doubt they would be impressed to find out your plans are on something else entirely.

He's already had two strikes against him and ended up in rescue, and what you are trying to do could permanently cripple him.

I just don't understand why you want to do this to a pacing horse.

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rookie 05-31-2013 06:16 PM

What height are you looking to jump? Are you having trouble training the trot? You can't beat them for great personality. I would think that he was pin fired for splints. It was originally thought that it would reduce the pain, get them sounder faster and back to the races. If you are doing a significant height I would still consider having a vet look at him just to be on the safe side. I would do that with any horse I was going to jump.

jerseypacer 05-31-2013 08:42 PM

Ditto what DrKate said. I have two Standardbred pacers. Although I dont jump, many people in my standardbred club do and do it well. One of my boys has extensive pin firing on both front legs. When I got him I had him evaluated by a vet and have xrays done every few years to keep track of any changes. He is an awesome trail horse and I drive him in pleasure driving classes as well. Pacers *do* trot and standardbreds do walk,trot and canter. We have standardbreds in our stb pleasure horse club that jump, barrel race, do dressage, as well as drive and trail ride. They are very versatile and as long as they are sound, you can do so much with them.

caglover 06-10-2013 07:40 PM

We, in SPHO of Ohio, also have STBs that can and do jump..and do dressage, and barrels, and HUS, and Western...walk-trot-canter....walk-slow rack, walk-slow-rack-speed rack...and some even pace.

The Standardbred is a very versatile breed...and on the trail few have the endurance of the Standardbred.


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