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ferret_lovr 05-26-2007 06:56 PM

Ground work help??
 
I just got a Haflinger gelding that needs to be broke and I don't have the money to get a trainer. I'm new at this and need help. I need somebody who is willing to email me steps as I go. Somebody I can communicate with. If he gets it we move on to the next thing. I am really good with horses and have broke one before but she is not properly broke because I didn't know what I was doing. So if somebody can kindly help me, I would like to start both horses over and begin with ground work because that forms a solid relationship and a bomb proof foundation people say. Please help! Thanks.
-Kady

tumai 05-26-2007 07:27 PM

:) mmmm this is a tricky one. Ideally I would suggest that you beg someone in the know(trainer or experienced horse person) close to you to help you as I know its easier to learn this hands on and is safer and with someone by your side everystep of the way, you are more likely going to learn subtle changes in the horses behaviour that come with training, BUT in saying that there are alot of people on this forum that have a wide range of experiences and ideas and theories on training so I would ask that you give us a complete and wider picture of what your dealing with...eg ages of horses and what training they already have had and what sort of grounds you have and yards etc. Also what went wrong with the first horse, do tell as it may not be as bad as you think and you may get some good solutions on here.

P.S photo's are good too.

ferret_lovr 05-26-2007 09:13 PM

Ok, Red is a 7 year old haflinger gelding. I have been working with him on lunging and he is doing great with that. I'm just looking at getting him broke to ride on trails and not spook so much, I will take it from there...I just want him to have a solid foundation and trust and respect me. I want to be close to him, he already does fine for the farrier, he loads, he leads and all, he just doesn't have any ground work such as he couldn't even lunge when I got him, he was scared to. My QH Emmy is ok at riding, but she does not respect me, the only thing she can do is move forward, turn, and with a LOT of work she will switch gates(and I'm not exaggerating). She bucks all the time, especially when she doesn't want to go faster and you make her or when she doesn't want to slow down and you make her, and pretty much anything else she doesn't want to do that you make her do she will throw you. Red is such an amazing horse and I want him to be broke the best of his ability. Im really good at speaking to horses and making them understand, but I dont know what to make them understand, which makes it hard :roll:. Please help, I will let you know if I don't like your strategies. Thanks

DesertGal 05-26-2007 10:49 PM

I'm doing the same thing! Hi!

I started out getting some John Lyons books (they were affordable.) Then subscribed to his son's and friends web site. http://www.horsemanship101.com/Newsletter/index.html It's free. Then I attended as many clinics as I could, checked out Clint Anderson, and a few others. The best clinic I have attended was a Leslie Desmond clinic, I don't know if she is having one near you, but here is her web site. http://www.lesliedesmond.com/ I love her methods.

What I am doing now, is a combo of everyone. What works best for me, and for Christy. It takes longer when we do it ourselves as it's more a trial and error method... :? But both Christy and I have learned a lot! We still have some issues to work through, like being super barn sour :evil: , but we will get through it. She still likes to buck, but is soooooo much better.

I spent extra time on ground work, both in and out of the corral, out on the streets (trail) and wherever I could. Lunging on the road in full tack. Helps a lot. When I did get on her, it was in her safe zone, her corral. When I first started going out on trail I had a friend with a been there done that gelding that really calmed Christy down.

I first worked with ground commands, do teach giving to pressure it makes a huge difference. I can post it, but it's kind of long, so if you already know it...

Dinner's ready, be back later! :D

DesertGal 05-26-2007 11:59 PM

Ok, I'm back... Very yummy steak!

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She bucks all the time, especially when she doesn't want to go faster and you make her or when she doesn't want to slow down and you make her, and pretty much anything else she doesn't want to do that you make her do she will throw you.
LOL! Oh yeah! I do two things for the bucking on the lunge. 1. If she is bucking out of disrespect, as in I don't wanna, I make her run. At least two full circles at a run, which is basically I chase her as I free lunge (I get dizzy on the line.) Well, move behind her with a dressage whip, and hit the ground with it. Then back to walk. Then I ask and insist on an outside turn. I move toward her head which turns her to the outside. If she refuses, she has to run.
2. If her bucking is "joy of life" or she just isn't getting the picture, then when she bucks I stop her right there. Whoa. Then move off again I also always yell augggh.

I really recommend "Lyons on Horses" by John Lyons as it really tells you how to do the ground work, and how to teach them to give to pressure. There are many other ways, but I don't like the Parelli games, and some of Clint Andersons methods just don't seem to work for me. I like the results, just not the methods.

Anyway, the lunging, either free or on line really reaches them. Email me if you want to: CCDesert@msn.com
I'll get back to you as soon as I can, my Mom (I'm 51, but I live with my mom, it's cheaper. :) ,) is going to have breast cancer surgery next Fri. so I may not get on much for a few days after that... But until then, I usually am on the internet. It's my down time. :D

I've been working with Christy for about 1 1/2 years, although much of that time either she has been sick, (lame, or tying-up...) or I have been ill, or the weather has been bad... :cry: Still, she is great, we only have some barn sour issues right now since she has been in her corral for the past few months. I worked with her some today, and she was fantastic. So, I guess I have learned more than I thought. Which makes me really happy. I've been around horses for a long time, but not trained them from scratch!

Here we are last spring.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4...sty_sig4-1.jpg

ferret_lovr 05-27-2007 12:50 AM

Sorry had to get off for a while. I am okay with working with Emmy. I think your confused. I have 2 horses, a QH mare and a haflinger gelding. The QH has some issues that I am working through(although your tips were helpful and Im gonna try them)...but Im working w/ the haflinger and her at the same time....I more so need help with how to ground work a horse. Im ground working both horses, but I can ride Emmy(QH) she just needs a lot of work. I need to get Red started though because he needs ground work..Im going to work a long time on that because it builds a solid relationship between horse and person, but the only thing wrong is...I dont know what "ground working" consists of...lol :P

DesertGal 05-27-2007 01:15 AM

LOL! I probably am confused, not the first time! LOL!

Check out these articles. They are about lunging and ground work. http://equisearch.com/horses_riding_...g/tmarticle19/

http://equisearch.com/horses_riding_...l/tmarticle15/
http://equisearch.com/horses_riding_...l/tmarticle16/
http://equisearch.com/horses_riding_...l/tmarticle17/

Backing.
http://equisearch.com/horses_riding_...ng/tmarticle9/

Hope this helps.

ferret_lovr 05-27-2007 01:41 AM

Thanks for all your help. Im definately using that site for my ground work.....:)


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