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howdyme 06-05-2013 08:59 PM

Skin Issues
 
My two Arabs, mare and gelding both have skin issues that started early this spring and are still bothersome to them both now in June. I clear up one skin issue only to have another appear somewhere else on their body. They are both related, black Arabs. I have tried several topical ointments and now am on an oral supplement which is not helping as of yet. They are both 16 years old. Anyone have such a problem and if so, did you have any good results with what you used. Thank you...:D

Vidaloco 06-05-2013 10:12 PM

Could this be bug related? My husbands horse breaks out in horrible welts from insect bites this time of year. I started feeding ground flax last fall and have added Smart Bug off from Smart pak in the early spring. It has made a world of difference with how she is reacting to them so far. I know it sounds like a pain in the a$$ but I buy whole seed and grind it daily. I feed all 4 of my girls 1/3 cup once a day. Their skin and coat have never looked better. It's available in some areas at feed stores. Unfortunately I'm not in one of those areas so I buy food grade online.

howdyme 06-06-2013 08:03 AM

I too feed ground flaxseed, but it is not helping. I spray them daily for bugs, but will try the Smart Bug Off next. Their coats are very shiny with the flaxseed. Thank you.

Vidaloco 06-07-2013 09:12 AM

I still use fly spray, but imo their are fewer flies. I used fly predators for years. I'm sort of doing an experiment this year and didn't order any. I put fly traps up around my manure pile and just doing the feed through bug off which is supposed to condition the skin and make the horse less tasty(it reeks of garlic when you open the bag). I know it's double duty but I also feed Simplifly that keeps flies from hatching in the poo along with the diatomaceous earth in the Smartbug off. So far so good and the cost is about what I was paying for the fly predators. We're surrounded by cattle so I always felt I was fighting a losing battle. Poor Shiloh was always bumpy and bloody from scratching herself. She still has some welts but nothing like what she has been in the past. I hope you find a cure for your guys. I know how frustrating it is watching your buddy in such discomfort.

howdyme 06-07-2013 09:43 AM

Thank you. Yes, I feel so bad watching them rub their stomachs on the ground and biting at their legs. I just started feeding garlic powder to my horses, so I will see if the nasty little bugs like that. Looking forward to cooler weather as I am sure the horses are too.

walkinthewalk 06-07-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by howdyme (Post 2731618)
Thank you. Yes, I feel so bad watching them rub their stomachs on the ground and biting at their legs. I just started feeding garlic powder to my horses, so I will see if the nasty little bugs like that. Looking forward to cooler weather as I am sure the horses are too.

I was going to ask specifically what skin issues but you just answered it.

They have sweet itch from biting midge flies.

If they have spots on their faces and neck area where there isn't any hair, they are probably dealing with neck threadworms, a/k/a NTW's, a/k/a Onchocerca worms.

They aren't worms in the real sense but microfiliae caused by the bite of Midge flies.

Double dose both of them with PURE Ivermectin. Believe me it works; it took me two years to work up to double-dosing my affected horses but it works.

You may or may not have to repeat the double dosing in 4 weeks.

Once you double-dose, within 24 - 72 hours the skin rashes will get much worse, then start to heal. That is because the microfiliae are dying off and making the horse's life miserable.

In the meantime, use diaper rash cream and some type of antibiotic ointment on their belly lines and other raw areas. The diaper rash cream stop the flies from landing and chewing on them, and will help make the itch go away.

You'll have to clean them and re-apply twice daily:-)

Don't know what it is about Arabs but my 27 yr old has been sensitive to fly and tick bites his entire life:-(

My Walking Horses aren't affected to the large degree the Arab is.

Hope this helps:-)

howdyme 06-07-2013 12:07 PM

Howdy, I did do the double dose of Ivermectin, washed the area with warm soapy water, put athlete's foot cream on the scabs and did it several times a day as directed by my vet. But it kept coming back. So, I started using Micro Tek and it clears it up for while too. They are spending more time in their stalls, which gives them relief. I had two grey Arabs for almost 30 years and they never had this skin issue. I guess they are all individuals and some are just more sensitive. Thank you very much.

walkinthewalk 06-07-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by howdyme (Post 2732722)
Howdy, I did do the double dose of Ivermectin, washed the area with warm soapy water, put athlete's foot cream on the scabs and did it several times a day as directed by my vet. But it kept coming back. So, I started using Micro Tek and it clears it up for while too. They are spending more time in their stalls, which gives them relief. I had two grey Arabs for almost 30 years and they never had this skin issue. I guess they are all individuals and some are just more sensitive. Thank you very much.

Ok, then the next thing is the immune system. If you Google "vitamin A for horse skin issues", you will probably get a lot of hits.

You can do a search on this site just using the words "Vitamin A".

A lot of folks will orally feed injectable Vitamin A for cattle, to their horses with skin issues that don't want to clear up.

There are varying formulas regarding how much and how often to give the Vitamin A, so there's no toxic-build-up in the liver.

A lady on my local forum supplements with liquid vitamin A and says the rainrot has completely cleared up on the foster horses she just took in.

I want to say she gives them 5CC's every couple days for two weeks but I also read of someone who gives 10CC's over a period of time and I know I am fusing the two together:-(:-(

Hopefully someone will come in and say what how much and for how long they administer the Vitamin A:-)

howdyme 06-07-2013 02:32 PM

Thank you, I will look into vitamin A. Again, thank you. Susan

Vidaloco 06-07-2013 03:24 PM

Bear in mind that Flax has small amounts of Vitamin A in it. Keep that in mind when you figure out the dosage. Thanks from me too Walkinthewalk :D


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