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Lounging "problem" .. help?
So I know it's 99% probable that its something I'm doing wrong and not a real problem. I just didn't know what else to call it.
When I try and lounge my horse, he kind of just stands there and looks at me like I'm a big idiot. I try and move "behind" him, but he turns and faces me, and when I ask him to go out, he tosses his head up and down and just stands there.
When My gelding does that I ask nice once, then i ask a little firmer the second time, and if still no response, I crack the whip (obviously not touching him) and that usually gets him to move his feet. it's also about body language and the energy you are sending towards him. Sometimes During the second attempt at asking, I tap his rear by his tail or a little lower to get him moving his feet.
Also make sure that you are standing Not super far behind him but just a tad behind his shoulder and if you want him to go left then have the lead in your left hand and point it straight out in the direction you want them to travel, and use your extended arm "whip" in the other at a lower angle and coaxing him forward with it.
Yeah see... I've tried cracking the whip and tapping him with it and all that, and he either tosses his head at me or looks at me like I'm dumb. He couldn't care less about the sound of a whip cracking nor does he really care if I poke him with it.
hmmm...... does he know how to lounge or are you just starting to teach him?
Well he's done it before, but I'm not sure he's ever really been taught. I guess I should have said free-lounging too, I'm not using a lounge line. But I can't even get him to move, let alone anything else.
ahhahaha i would chase after him lol. jk that can be dangerous because they could turn their butt to you and kick out. but, i've done it before to get mine moving. you might want to teach it on the lounge line, then once he gets the idea, it's easier to free lounge. with the line, you can guide his head which helps move his feet i think? lol sorry im not of much help, that's just what i would do.
If he's just standing there refusing to move and moving at his hip isn't working, I would suggest making him back away from you and then asking him to move out. As you back him, make him start to turn his shoulder away from you and then ask him to move out.
Point or tug with the lead rope in the direction you want and tap him on the shoulder or neck which will discourage him from turning to face you.
Look up on youtube Clinton Anderson Lunging for respect (or Longeing).
Duke does this to me all the time. Except he's to the point where he'll rear up and kick at me. If you lounge on a line then follow the above advice. And if not, you'll need to lightly, but firmly tap him in the shoulder until he moves. Don't increase the pressure because it will only make it worse (trust me). Just keep tapping steadily and be patient and the instant he moves stop tapping. Keep doing this until he understands that means to move out.
It may seem like you are taking a step backward, but it'll be useful and your horse learns that you REALLY are in charge. After he's mastered that he should lounge better.
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