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demonwolfmoon 06-08-2013 08:29 PM

Feeding a small/stunted Impulse Buy..."Foundation QH" Colt
 
I did something stupid, and I know it. The auction was going kind of badly today, and I was already feeling crap, so I bought a yearling looking, scrawny 2 year old Colt.

The horse isn't registered, but the vendor (an old lady who was crying =/) provided photocopies of the parents paperwork and was saying something about papers...anyhow, she says that the colt was 2 years old and has not been wormed since February of this year. From the sound of it, it seems like she's been worming solely with Ivermectin, and was saying they are scrawny partially because she "couldn't get rid of the worms". Anyway, I bought the healthier looking of the two that she had....(The other sold for a whopping 10 bucks).

Ok, so he should be seen by the Vet as soon as I get my trailer back, so hopefully by Monday. I can't move him until I get the coggins back...she will hold him for me, which is great, but I'd like to get some increased nutrition into him. Like ASAP.


So to make a short story really way too long, I'd like to hear recommendations on where to start with Grain? What have you had good experiences with feeding? I can't remember what my BO had the young ones on in the past...not sure it 100 percent matters since I can't move him until we get health paperwork, and after that we'll probably be moving (though I'll know he will be safe at least at the BO...she's good people).

No pics yet, but I'll try to take some tomorrow when I (hopefully!) bring down some sort of feed for him, as well as a 4 or 5 way...

demonwolfmoon 06-08-2013 08:32 PM

Just to add...I'm a sucker =(

walkinthewalk 06-08-2013 08:43 PM

What feed brands do you have available?

I would pick the highest quality name brand and buy their "grow start" or whatever that company's feed name is for weanlings:-)

I wouldn't feed anything more than a quality feed for awhile but at some point, I think adding Omega-3 Horseshine or someone's flax would help his hoof and coat quality a lot:-)

I know someone who took a TWH colt that literally got weaned at the auction because the beatch that bought the mare said she didn't care if the colt died in the ditch somewhere:evil::evil:

He never fed that colt anything, just turned it out to pasture with his older geldings who thankfully babysat the little guy.

I hadn't been past his house for an entire winter and one spring, about 4 years later, I saw this big, pretty sorrel standing in the pasture.

I called him and asked when he got the new horse. He laughed and said "that's Cotton -- turned out pretty good sized after all, didn't he?"

Cotton grew to around 14.3H or 15H. The TWH in my avatar has never been starved or abused and he is 14.3H.

My point to that: You have him now and with great care, you will probably help him recoup his growing losses; it will just take him longer to grow:D

Kudos to you for giving him a home:D:D

walkinthewalk 06-08-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by demonwolfmoon (Post 2745122)
Just to add...I'm a sucker =(

Most of us are, at some point in our horse lives:D

Saddlebag 06-08-2013 08:47 PM

Start him on hay only for several weeks. Let his gut get used to decent hay before adding anything else. In the mean time have a fecal exam done by the vet and worm according to the results. Just put a baggy on your hand and pick up some fresh manure and take it in. I wouldn't put him on grass at this time as he will pig out on it and risk founder. Do you have pics you can post. It's always nice to see pics of the progress.

deserthorsewoman 06-08-2013 09:03 PM

Agree with Saddlebag. Maybe start adding a pinch of alfalfa, slowly slowly working up to a normal amount. A vit/min supplement or ration balancer will be good for him in any case.
Once you have him home and hopefully worm-free, you can think about grain/hardfeed, for youngsters. How much he will grow? Who knows.....I took in a 3 year old standie who wasn't fast enough and he shot up two inches in the first three months off the track. So, anything is possible;-)

demonwolfmoon 06-08-2013 10:55 PM

Hey hey, thanks for responding.

I do not have any pictures. It was not a good day today, and I was exhausted by the time they came up for bidding. That and defying the "Don't you DARE!" from my husband left me feeling a bit deflated when all is said and done LOL.

I will get pictures tomorrow if the breeder is home. I definitely want some before and after shots!

Ok as far as supplements, I have my old lady horse on: Animed Muscle up, flax oil (or one of those oils, I forget!!!), ummm....some sort of horse vitamin... MSM for joints, and tryptophan treats because I ran out of powder (and I may as well use up the Calming wafers haha). I think all my others are just on MSM, vitamins and the oil.

Here is what I was thinking:

What about I acquire some better hay....either through my BO or another person, and give the breeder a couple bales pegged for my horse. THEN add just a handful of some sort of grain mixed with Probios. I honestly feel like if I don't supplement him with anything else, Probios should be a start, just to make sure his gut doesn't get screwed up with all the changes upcoming.

I'm going to call the vet local to me tomorrow (Sunday) and see if he knows any nearby PA vets that do the quick Coggins. As soon as I can get a health cert, I'd feel a lot better if we brought him to the boarding barn. I hate to think this, and the lady has been nothing but nice, but it makes me nervous to leave the horse in her care along with food...especially since I bet her other horses are hungry too.

='(

Endiku 06-08-2013 11:03 PM

Probios can't hurt. You can't really overdose on those and they get the gut functioning well again. I had Kenzie on them for about 10 weeks while we were getting her over the wormy/shut down GI system stuff, then took her off and she's doing just fine.

I'm glad you took him though. Maybe you can get him past that initial hump and rehome him if you don't feel like you can take on another horse. I'm sure he's plenty grateful!

demonwolfmoon 06-08-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Endiku (Post 2746098)
Probios can't hurt. You can't really overdose on those and they get the gut functioning well again. I had Kenzie on them for about 10 weeks while we were getting her over the wormy/shut down GI system stuff, then took her off and she's doing just fine.

I'm glad you took him though. Maybe you can get him past that initial hump and rehome him if you don't feel like you can take on another horse. I'm sure he's plenty grateful!

Honestly Endiku, there is that fantasy of "I wonder if he'll grow up to be an awesome horse that works for us!"...

And then there's logic that says...well, I saved him...even if I take a financial loss by helping him out, maybe I could sell him on to someone when he's all better.

I really hate thinking that way though, because my next thought is "And what if he ends up being exactly as messed up by the new house as he was in the old?"

...And *that* dear friends, is why I have eight cats. /facepalm


**Actually though, I should probably reread through your Kenzie thread for ideas!!!!** =)

smrobs 06-08-2013 11:14 PM

I second (or third?) what saddlebag said. I'd just start him on all the good quality hay he could eat for the time being until his body adjusts to having good nutrition. Alfalfa if you can get it, good quality grass if you can't.

Whatever grain type feed you start him on, I'd be looking for something that averaged 16-18% protein and had no sugar in it. You could probably add some oil as well for the added fat.

IMHO, it's not any healthier for them to come from a bad situation only to be stuffed so full of all these different feeds that they are over-fed. Better to build him up slowly than to risk founder :wink:.

As for being a sucker, yep, we all are at some point. I mean, you've seen my fugly yearling filly, right? LOL


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