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Kamakazi 06-12-2013 03:07 PM

catching issues
 
My 7 year old gelding, Adiel, has always had issues being caught. When he was a foal the breeders were abusive and neglected their horses. Up until I got him (at around 4ish months old) he had never been touched by a human. He is the friendliest horse on earth now and loves attention, but we still have one issue; being caught. He is fine if you go out to the pasture without a halter to pet him, give treats, ect. But as soon as you have a halter on your shoulder I can't get within a foot of him. I've tried using grain to catch him (he's not a big fan of feed..), I've tried putting him in a smaller pasture by himself, I've tried break away halters, nylon halters (he's scared to death of them due to an accident we had when he was about 2), and rope halters (what we use now), using a catch pen and nothing seems to help. Keeping him in a barn is not an option.
Once he's caught he is perfectly fine, it's just getting a hold of him that is an issue.
Anyone have suggestions??

LadyDreamer 06-12-2013 04:09 PM

What did the previous owners do to him that was so bad? Did they just not handle him?

Do a quick search on this forum. This topic has been discussed many times and there is a lot good info on the other threads. I am sure you will get better responses, but for now, here are some of the aforementioned threads.

http://www.horseforum.com/horse-trai...-horse-209330/

http://www.horseforum.com/horse-trai...-horse-201729/

http://www.horseforum.com/horse-trai...my-new-196010/
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Kamakazi 06-12-2013 05:27 PM

The breeders up and left one day. They took all of the fillies and mares with them to a new state and left the colts & studs behind. they were all in one very small corral where they had no food or water. It was about a week or so before anyone knew the horses were still there (very rural area). As far as what happened to them before this point in time they were very rough with their horses (my uncle was their neighbor & experienced a lot of this). The stallions would flinch away at the slightest raise of your hand and the colts were flat out afraid of people.

I did do a search and everything that has been suggested I've already tried. I wouldn't have posted a new thread if I hadn't already done all I can think of.

LadyDreamer 06-12-2013 06:17 PM

Sorry for the questions. I am just trying to get some more information.

Can you carry anything out to him? A bucket? A rope without a halter?

How do you approach when you are just visiting and he will let you approach as compared to when you are heading out to get him? What is your body language saying?

When you do catch him, what do you do with him? Is he trained? Are you training him? Are you doing(or avoiding) things in regards to his past?
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Kamakazi 06-12-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer (Post 2783034)
Sorry for the questions. I am just trying to get some more information.

Can you carry anything out to him? A bucket? A rope without a halter?

How do you approach when you are just visiting and he will let you approach as compared to when you are heading out to get him? What is your body language saying?

When you do catch him, what do you do with him? Is he trained? Are you training him? Are you doing(or avoiding) things in regards to his past?
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I can carry anything out to him that isn't a rope/halter.

I approach him the same way no matter the reason I'm out there.

When he gets caught it depends on the day/how much time I have to spend with him. It will range from just feeding him (sweet feed/treats), to lounging, to just grooming, riding, ect.
He is trained.I have been the only trainer since day 1.

Run4Home 06-13-2013 04:26 AM

You could try join up with him? And just carry a halter while you do it. :)

Becca93 06-13-2013 05:04 AM

Is he generally afraid of a halter/rope or is it just when you are trying to catch him? Does he have any issues when you untack him and put a halter on?

Kamakazi 06-13-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca93 (Post 2788138)
Is he generally afraid of a halter/rope or is it just when you are trying to catch him? Does he have any issues when you untack him and put a halter on?

He is not afraid of the rope/halter, he was/is afraid of the noise nylon halters make (the metal makes noise). I use a rope halter on him now though that makes no noise. He's just being a pain and doesn't want to be caught. One I have my arm around his neck he stands perfectly still and even puts his head down for the halter himself.
He doesn't have issues when I tack/untack him. It's just getting a hold of him that's the issue

Roadyy 06-13-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamakazi (Post 2791266)
He is not afraid of the rope/halter, he was/is afraid of the noise nylon halters make (the metal makes noise). I use a rope halter on him now though that makes no noise. He's just being a pain and doesn't want to be caught. One I have my arm around his neck he stands perfectly still and even puts his head down for the halter himself.
He doesn't have issues when I tack/untack him. It's just getting a hold of him that's the issue

How close can you get to him before he heads the other direction? Try getting close to him then turn your back to him and walk backwards the rest of the way to him. It has worked for me before on a horse that would let me get about 15' from him before he headed the other direction. With my back to him he didn't feel threatened or in jeopardy of being caught.

tinyliny 06-13-2013 01:34 PM

so, you've tried the "walking down a horse"? and you've done round pen work, getting him to turn and come to you? Could you do that, round pen work, and have a halter in your hand the whole time?


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