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BarrelRace4Life 06-13-2013 11:03 PM

What's the best anti-septic to use on a horse?
 
I know there are many different ones, but which is the safest and most effective? I hear hydrogen peroxide is not good, but what about diluted rubbing alcohol or betadine?

Dreamcatcher Arabians 06-13-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BarrelRace4Life (Post 2796442)
I know there are many different ones, but which is the safest and most effective? I hear hydrogen peroxide is not good, but what about diluted rubbing alcohol or betadine?

I usually clean a wound with Hibiclens and rinse off with water. If I need to bandage, I put honey on the wound and a non-stick pad and then bandage.

BarrelRace4Life 06-13-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians (Post 2796466)
I usually clean a wound with Hibiclens and rinse off with water. If I need to bandage, I put honey on the wound and a non-stick pad and then bandage.

Hibiclens is mostly composed of isopropyll alcohol, is that right?

Dreamcatcher Arabians 06-13-2013 11:30 PM

It's 4% Chlorhexidine w/v and 4% Isopropyl alcohol and it's been pH adjusted to be almost neutral, so doesn't sting in a wound. HibiclensŪ and HibistatŪ

Phly 06-13-2013 11:41 PM

We use iodine on almost everything.
Heck, last time I got shot I told the paramedics to spray some iodine on it and drop me off at the house. (Side note, they didn't and didn't think it was funny apparently, lol)


Iodine, the Universal Pathogen Killer. Though iodine kills most pathogens on the skin within 90 seconds, its use as an antibiotic/antiviral/antifungal has been completely ignored by modern medicine.

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As early as June 1, 1905 an article was printed in the New York Times about the successful use of iodine for consumption/tuberculosis. Though iodine kills most pathogens on the skin within 90 seconds, its use as an antibiotic/antiviral/antifungal has been completely ignored by modern medicine. Iodine exhibits activity against bacteria, molds, yeasts, protozoa, and many viruses; indeed, of all antiseptic preparations suitable for direct use on humans and animals and upon tissues, only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa. Most bacteria are killed within 15 to 30 seconds of contact.

"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time." Dr. David Derry

Dr. Derry says iodine is effective "for standard pathogens such as Staphylococcus, but also iodine has the broadest range of action, fewest side effects and no development of bacterial resistance." Some doctors have reported that it is excellent for the treatment of mononucleosis. Iodine kills single-celled organisms by combining with the amino acids tyrosine or histidine when exposed to the extracellular environment. All single cells (pathogens) showing tyrosine on their outer cell membranes are killed instantly by a simple chemical reaction with iodine that denatures proteins. Nature and evolution have given us an important mechanism to control pathogenic life forms, and we should use it and trust it to protect us in ways that antibiotics cannot.

Dr. David Brownstein, author of Iodine - Why You Need It, uses iodine extensively in his practice and says, "Iodine is a wonderful antibiotic solution without question and most importantly I never see any of my patients complain of dysbiotic reactions from its use." Because drug-resistant micro-organisms continue to emerge and the number of patients susceptible to these infections is increasing dramatically, an approach that utilizes the innate powers of the immune system as a therapeutic agent will have the greatest benefit to sick patients. The body's ability to resist infection and disease is hindered by long-term deficiency in essential vitamins and minerals including that of iodine. Poor immune response is correlated with impaired thyroid function; a deficiency in iodine can greatly affect the immune system because low levels of iodine lead to problems with the thyroid gland.

Stephen Fisher a missionary in Zambia has been very successful with the use of iodine treating people with malaria. He used 20 drops of Nascent Iodine in a half glass of water given 4 or 5 times during the first day and then decreased the dose to 10 drops of Nascent Iodine 4 times a day for 3 more days, although higher dosages can be administered for much longer since iodine is a nutritional medicine that is needed by the body. Such a protocol can be used for the swine flu or any other type of influenza. Brownstein and others use much higher dosages of other iodine forms, namely Lugol's and Iodoral for cancer treatment. If you are interested in high dose usage, please read one of the books by Dr. Brownstein or "Dr. Sircus for more details on how to do so.

The minimum number of iodine molecules required to destroy one bacterium varies with the species. For H. influenzae it was calculated to be 15000 molecules of iodine per cell. When bacteria are treated with iodine, the inorganic phosphate up-take and oxygen consumption by the cells immediately ceases. Thus the antiseptic properties of iodine are used to sterilize every surface and material in hospitals. Iodine is an excellent microbicide with a broad range of action that includes almost all of the important health-related microorganisms, such as enteric bacteria, enteric viruses, bacterial viruses, fungi and protozoan cysts.

The tremendous diversity and mutability of many infections and their ability to intelligently exploit the cells is one of the main reasons we should return to iodine as our favored broad spectrum antibiotic, anti-viral and anti-fungal agent. Iodine provides us with a safe way to strengthen innate responses to invading microbes while simultaneously correcting or eliminating a basic nutritional deficiency that causes immunological unresponsiveness.

Iodine is able to penetrate quickly through the cell walls of microorganisms.

Iodine is a deadly enemy of single cell microorganisms thus it can be our best friend in our fight against the most dangerous pathogens. Nature and evolution have given us an important mechanism to control pathogenic life forms and we should use it and trust it to protect us in ways that antibiotics can't.

Dr.David Brownstein, one of a core group of iodine doctors had very kind words to say about the book, Iodine - Bringing Back the Universal Medicine. "Dr. Sircus has done it again. He has written a wonderful book on iodine that shows the benefits of iodine for treating a wide range of disorders and how you can incorporate iodine into your daily lifestyle. This book should be in everyone's library." I would say the same about his book, which inspired my deeper study into the applications of Iodine.
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existentialpony 06-13-2013 11:44 PM

Well, to give you an idea, when we do aseptic surgery on animals we wipe with alcohol followed by betadine (iodine solution). Doesn't hurt to use both!

BarrelRace4Life 06-13-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by existentialpony (Post 2796754)
Well, to give you an idea, when we do aseptic surgery on animals we wipe with alcohol followed by betadine (iodine solution). Doesn't hurt to use both!

Ya I was thinking betadine would be the best!

BarrelRace4Life 06-13-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians (Post 2796674)
It's 4% Chlorhexidine w/v and 4% Isopropyl alcohol and it's been pH adjusted to be almost neutral, so doesn't sting in a wound. HibiclensŪ and HibistatŪ

Good to know!! Thank you!

rogerharris 06-14-2013 02:59 AM

iodine containing lotions are the best anti-septic of all times as they help in removal of contaminants from the wound and also sterilize the area from infection.

toto 06-14-2013 03:06 AM

We use iodine too- for bigger wounds - i know Listerine is good for fungi.. random but its an antiseptic too and would prefer it over the alcohol or peroxide.


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