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Dreamcatcher5 06-23-2013 05:32 PM

Green horse and rider jumping, please critique!
 
I've been riding for 8 years but am pretty new to jumping. So is my 6 year old gelding Luca, who I broke in myself. Before getting him, I was doing trotting poles and now we are jumping 40cm, going on to 60cm next session (since Luca is managing the 40cm jumps awesomely) I would just like some critique, mostly on Luca, but a bit on me, too, although I kind of know what I need to improve more (straighter back, better release, heels down, butt out of the saddle). I think Luca has improved tremendously, although he does take off the ground a bit early. But if I put a pole in front of the jump to help him with judging distance, he will just jump that pole as well.:shock:
Okay, without further ado, here's Luca! Click pics to enlarge

Free jumping about half a year ago (sloppy legs, jumping flat)
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...psc39cb30f.jpg
Same height jump, two days ago, under saddle:
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...ps30709187.jpg
another one from the same day and jump, jumping off way too early :shock:
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...psf781c6ad.jpg

Yeah, my position is bad, but I'm learning! So is Luca.
Critique time! :D

QHriderKE 06-23-2013 05:38 PM

Do you take lessons?
You need to do a lot of work in a two-point. You dont even have a 2 point in those jumps. Id get a 2 point on the flat nice and solid before jumping.
You also need a release!!!!

Dreamcatcher5 06-23-2013 05:51 PM

Yeah, I practise two-point a lot, but in that moment when he jumps, I just totally forget. Thats what I'm working on, remembering my position during the actual jump. I'm not taking lessons, since we are not financially...um...fortunate, but I am going to go to a jumping clinic (which is just like lessons, just not regular). I am also going to be joining pony club. Next time I jump, I'm going to tie a little band in Luca's mane, just where I want my hands to be when I jump, so I can get a release.

What do you think about Luca, though?

QHriderKE 06-23-2013 05:55 PM

He looks fine, I know little about jumping horses and what they are supposed to look like over fences.
Have yoy ever tried picking up your 2 point before the jump? I know its bad to get ahead of you horse, but it will help you get into your two point

Dreamcatcher5 06-23-2013 05:59 PM

I never thought about that, thank you! I will definitely try it next time I jump!

BornToRun 06-23-2013 06:01 PM

I really think you need to find a way to take lessons. A clinic is a one or two day event, and it will not give you all of the information you're going to need to teach yourself and your horse. I can't afford my lessons either, but I work at the barn for them, I also work for my coach to get fees off my showing expenses. You're giving no release at all, and your two point is non - existent. You can't teach a horse if you yourself still need to learn it! If he is jumping stride poles, you need to go back to lunging over ground poles, so that he can learn how to step over them.

Green + Green = Black and Blue!

QHriderKE 06-23-2013 06:05 PM

I was going to suggest lessons and the whole she-bang... but I cant take lessons either, and have been self taught thus far. If the op takes her time and listens to the advice she gets on her riding, she'll be able to learn I think.

Skyseternalangel 06-23-2013 06:10 PM

OP, for my first riding lesson I was asked to grab mane and get into 2-point a few strides before the jump. That way if it's kind of eh.. you don't jab the horse in the mouth.

existentialpony 06-23-2013 07:22 PM

I agree with everyone else... go back to ground poles, work stirrupless, figure out your seat and balance. I know that it's easy to want to jump early on because it's honestly a lot of fun, but you have to be safe and responsible to your horse and self.

Over the jump, you are sitting with your knees pinched, heels up, shoulders hunched and no release. Your horse is overjumping quite a bit and doesn't seem very balanced.

Before jumping, you should be able to 2-point a few large laps over some poles without losing your balance. Your weight should be in your heels and your calves should hug the sides of the horse to maintain your position (ie. no knee-pinching!). Your seat should be totally independent of your hands so that if you need to give your horse a release, your balance permits you to do so.

Oxer 06-23-2013 10:22 PM

Yep... you shouldn't be moving up in height, if you're not able to ride the height your at now, appropriately.


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