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manhirwen 02-25-2009 04:39 PM

PETA (controversy)
Ok, I was just reading a thread about horse racing and such and I saw PETA mentioned many times in it. It seems most of the members in this forum are against PETA but it also appears that there are a few people who seem somewhat supportive of them.

I was just wondering where everyone stands on this controversial group. I've looked around a little to see what PETA members and endorsers are saying and quite frankly in my opinion I cannot see how anyone could support such a group of people. They are a lot like terrorists in their beliefs and thought processes.

For example, here are some quotes from members of the PETA group. (note that they hold animal lives equal if not above human lives)

So for those of you who say "PETA does some good", why not rethink what you're condoning?

"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler
chickens will die this year in slaughter houses.
-Ingrid Newkirk (PETA)"
(_Washington_Post_, Nov 13, 1983)

"We feel animals have the same rights as a ******ed human child.
-Alex Pacheco (PETA)"
(_New_York_Times_, Jan 14, 1989)

Pet ownership is an "absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
-Ingrid Newkirk, PETA"
(_Washingtonian_Magazine_, August 1986)

"Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are "acceptable crimes"
when used for the animals' cause."
-Alex Pacheco (PETA)
(_Charleston,_W._VA_Gazette-Mail_, Jan 15, 1989)

"The optimum human population of earth is zero."
-Dave Foreman, Earth First!

than anything we applied arson, and effectively we destroyed -- um,
let’s see -- the Northwest Fur Breeders Cooperative in Edmonds,
Washington, which we hit a week later after OSU. We hit Washington
State University’s Eastern Washington experimental fur farm. We did get
seven coyotes out of there, six mink, and ten mice … We burned down a
fur farm that was on the market to be sold, in Oregon also. We went to
the Michigan State University’s experimental fur farm program and
destroyed thirty-two years of research, by using fire once again, and
rescued two mink from there."
- SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey (November 30, 2002)

In essence, PETA does NOT condone people having pets, it's goal is that there is absolutely no contact between animals and people.

farmpony84 02-25-2009 04:41 PM

I think that PETA was originally formed with good intentions and then the loons took over... just my opinion though...

manhirwen 02-25-2009 04:48 PM

At this point in their existence they are like any other terrorist who believes what they are doing (arson, murder..etc..) is for the good of the world. What they do is illegal and they should be jailed. IMO

kershkova 02-25-2009 04:49 PM

compareing ckickens to jew`s now that rediculus and animals to children and calling kids retared thats just mean

manhirwen 02-25-2009 04:52 PM

Oh there is SO much MORE I could have posted. Personally I cannot understand the psyche of someone that crazy. And WHEN did they have good intentions? Many of the quotes are all the way back in the 80s.

tempest 02-25-2009 04:57 PM

Here's an article I found about PETA. I agree that PETA is going too far in.

Where PETA went wrong: It opened its mouth - News, Fantasy, Video

banjiny16 02-25-2009 05:00 PM

I agree with farmpony, i think it was originally started for good reasons but has since taken a turn for the worse!

MN Tigerstripes 02-25-2009 05:01 PM

Definitely not a fan of PETA for various reasons... including whats on this link PETA Kills Animals | Of course I'm sure they skew some of their info too, but my contact with PETA groups on campus has never been good.

wild_spot 02-25-2009 05:09 PM

I think I was the one who said that PETA does SOME good. By that I meant that there are people within the organisation who aren't fanatical and do work simply for the good of animals.

It's the faction of die-hard humans are bad animals are better fanatics that have given them such a bad name. They often cause more cruelty to the animals they are trying to help. They refuse to listen to facts and refuse to accept that there are compromises that could be made.

The biggest thing that frustrates me is the mulesing debate... Having first hand seen the effects of NOT mulesing, I belive it is much crueler not to do it.

manhirwen 02-25-2009 05:09 PM

thanks for the post tempest.

Can I ask what the 1st birthday thing is all about? why are people happy their horses weren't born before January?

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