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Canteringleap 07-16-2013 02:59 AM

Has my position improved?
 
Hi guys! Posted these pictures not long ago -
Been having lessons consistently for the last two weeks, focusing on my lower leg!
Was just wondering if you could see if my position overall (and lower leg) has improved?

These were taken a few months ago -

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...13750086_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...14656571_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...92360589_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...47543905_n.jpg

And these have been taken over the last two weeks -

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...56184854_n.jpg

Video to come :)

Thanks guys!

Any advice is really appreciated too :)

Canteringleap 07-16-2013 03:01 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...23011705_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...81687650_n.jpg

Don't know why these didnt attach !

Also, I know I'm shoving a bit, still working on that, but right now i'd much rather give more than too little while we're both still working out our striding :)

Canteringleap 07-16-2013 03:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYm_...ature=youtu.be

Video :)

Skyseternalangel 07-17-2013 12:33 AM

I can only see the dressage one. Better lower leg but you're still tipping too far forward and thus you are out of alignment.

Canteringleap 07-18-2013 06:13 AM

How far back would you think my leg would have to be?
I've been desensitizing my horse to my leg, as he is extremely sensitive to it, especially behind the girth, he's getting much better, but I think subconciously i'm still nervous of relaxing my leg behind the girth, so I get in that position without thinking!
I'll try and think about it when i'm riding next! Thanks :)

Skyseternalangel 07-18-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canteringleap (Post 3094434)
How far back would you think my leg would have to be?
I've been desensitizing my horse to my leg, as he is extremely sensitive to it, especially behind the girth, he's getting much better, but I think subconciously i'm still nervous of relaxing my leg behind the girth, so I get in that position without thinking!
I'll try and think about it when i'm riding next! Thanks :)

I wasn't talking about your leg, I was talking about your torso.

Plus you want a horse to be sensitive to your leg.. that's how they are ridden lol...

Canteringleap 07-18-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel (Post 3098954)
I wasn't talking about your leg, I was talking about your torso.

Plus you want a horse to be sensitive to your leg.. that's how they are ridden lol...

Misread what you said sorry!
I looked at my photos and think my lower leg should be a inch further back behind the girth anyway.

I'm talking about sensitive to the extend if I gently rest my lower leg behind the girth he gets extremely tense, and goes straight onto the forehand, it can take me ten or so minutes of trying to get him to stretch down and relax before I can ask anything of him. Its to do with how his old rider used to ride him.

I like horses being sensitive to the leg, but not that sensitive.

Canteringleap 07-20-2013 06:19 AM

Does anyone else have any advice? Really appreciate anything :)

SketchyHorse 07-20-2013 08:38 PM

Like Sky said you're tipping too far forward in your seat in the Dressage pictures. This isn't necessarily because of your leg but because you need to open your hip angle. Notice how it's fairly closed leaning you forward? You need to think almost lean back, tuck your butt under you more, & let your leg drape. Dropping your stirrups a couple holes will help as well. The position of the leg is fine, your heel could be a smidge farther behind you but nothing major.

For the jumping pictures you can definitely see improvement from a few months back to now with leg position. I'd personally like to see you pushing down in your heels more. The second picture is much better than the first (of the newer ones). It looks like you were either starting to sit down to early or didn't lift out of the saddle enough. Which you don't need to clear it a lot - just like you did in the second one. I think the reason your leg position was so all over in the first few was because your stirrups were too long. Your body position in the third one (of the older pics) looks good.

Oxer 07-21-2013 05:36 PM

I don't normally say this, but i really like your horse. He's the kind of horse that i would go see if i was buying, even if he was across the other side of the country. I tend to appreciate a horse that is a more sensitive ride, and can even be hot at times. Lovely, lovely boy.

Anyway... all of that aside... I will speak on the jumping picture, as i know nothing of dressage. You can clearly see there has been improvement. However, you're still jumping with your foot parallel to the ground. I'm not entirely sure how you manage this without losing your irons, but either way, you need to put your heel down, open your knee angle, and place your center of gravity over your legs.
I don't like the new style of jumping where people jam their legs out in front of them to keep them at the girth. That's not correct, in my opinion. A strong supple leg will always remain just behind the girth.... not to be confused with a swinging leg that has lost contact from a pinched knee! :)
So don't get too caught up with the idea that your leg needs to remain glued to your girth.

I would also like to just note one little thing. While I appreciate your generous releases, they are really unnecessary and will become a tough habit to quit. You need to remember to keep a feel of your horses mouth, so that you can pick him back up and make your next move upon landing. There is no reason to literally THROW your contact away in an attempt to be "nice" with his face. You can learn to keep the contact, while still providing an adequate release.


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