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joseeandjade11 07-16-2013 12:28 PM

New to giving horse feed, help please ;)
Hey guys!

Ok so i am new to this, i've never really given grains or anything extra before. I've put my horse on great vet vitamins and i ordered masterfeeds 12% patriot horse feed.

Now i have no clue of the quantity to give the patriot feed. These are the directions:

I suck at math and have no idea how to calculate or know how many cups to give. i still have to check how my horse weights but im guessing between 1000-1200 lbs.
I ride my mare 3-4 times a week and it's not like super hard work just pleasure riding and a bit of training. She doesn't need to gain weight, she just needs to gain muscle on her topline and croup.

I hope the information i gave will help determine to calculate how much she needs :)

And i forgot to ask, should i add some canola oil or simply give it to her dry ?

poppy1356 07-16-2013 12:35 PM

That is a sweet feed and I wouldn't feed it personally. Good exercise will help build muscle.

GamingGrrl 07-16-2013 12:41 PM

I agree, that's a sweet feed and it'll do more harm than good. It sounds like she might do fine on a ration balancer and hay. Riding up and down slopes and over cavaletti will help build muscle.
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joseeandjade11 07-16-2013 12:49 PM

When you say more harm then good, what would it do? :S

She has a hay belly and since this feed said it was good for digestion i thought it would be great for my mare (which i forgot to mention is 6 yrs old)

She is outside 24/7 and always has access to hay (boarding at a ranch)

poppy1356 07-16-2013 01:05 PM

It's sugar, like giving a kid a bucket of candy bars. Hay belly is usually from lack of exercise, lack of proper muscle and poor quality hay.

Up the hay quality and the exercise and it should slim down. If she is in good weight a ration balancer should be all you need, especially at her age.

Kotori 07-16-2013 01:05 PM

They mean it won't help at all and will probably make her fat. hill work builds muscles as well. I've heard that if you make them trot very slowly, that works them more than speeding around.

joseeandjade11 07-16-2013 01:08 PM

the hay quality i have no control, i board my horse and no hills around, there's no cavaletti either :( only poles that i can trot over. and what is a good ration balancer? i can get my hands on the equalizer from purina but i was told not to give that with the vitamins im giving, i've paid 75$ for the vitamins so i do want to keep giving them.

poppy1356 07-16-2013 01:32 PM

If she is getting good vitamins and minerals then I would just give them with a handful of hay pellets to mix them in. Are the vitamins in a pellet or powder form? If pellet and the horse will eat them then I probably wouldn't even bother giving anything else.

joseeandjade11 07-16-2013 02:02 PM

Yes the vitamins are pellets and they are apple flavoured, she loves them and eats them just like that, i simply mix them with freshly cut apples and carrots
If you visit this website
Equine Super Diet S.B. (Canada) Veterinary Information from
it says everything that there is in the vitamins-trace minerals

i really want to have her topline filled out with muscles, its kinda diminished and i hate it. she's got a weak croup as well. It's like she needs to fill muscles or fat all along her spine so i was told protein would help with that as well as the exercices

poppy1356 07-16-2013 02:05 PM

Protein yes but also amino acids. Everything works together. Sweet feed has some protein but the sugar in it wipes out any benefit it might have had.

Alfalfa is a good source of protein. Either in hay or pellet form. I am currently using Tri-Amino on my older mare. I feel like I am starting to see a slight increase in muscle. But again it is because it is supplying nutrients needed for muscle building.

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