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What shank bit to go with???
So April is now 6 so in order for me to show her western it has to be a bit with a shank. While some of you may be going 6 and still not in a shank??? April had about 60 days as a two year old and then not touched till 4 and even then I didnt get much riding... so last summer I only used a smooth snaffle which she responds to very well.
I like to ride my horses in a snaffle whatever the age but for showing I use a california spoon on Chloe (and she responds very well) but that is going to be way to harsh for April. So what is a good bit to start working her in? At this point I still use a little pressure at the lope to keep her collected and from running away on me.
We like the jointed Mylers. Nice to be able to pick up their shoulders, etc.
Definitely check out Myler bits. I love'em! To start her out, because a shank will be new to her, go with something with a short shank for now and then experiment with tongue pressure vs. tongue relief. Some horses like more contact while some need more relief. Myler has different Levels of mouthpieces ranging from mullen mouths to ultimate tongue relief with a nice port...not too high but enough to give the horse relief.
Angel - if you are planning to go to expo, Dale Myler will be at the MN Horse Expo April 24-26.
Schedule for the Minnesota Horse Expo 2006
Im pretty excited for expo- I already ordered my tickets for the expo and the rodeo friday night. It is a thing my mom and I have done for years.
My personal favorite is the Billy Allen Mouth piece. It's very difficult to find one without horrendously long shanks though. But it is a great bit because it has some give, but doesn't have the nutcracker effect or confusing signals that other jointed curbs have. I do know where to get a short shanked billy allen bit if you are interested. It takes a bit of web searching but I could easily find it for you. If you are interested feel free to PM me :)
Is this what you are talking about? Reinsman D&L Reiner 1/2" Billy Allen Mouth
I will look into it...Thanks :)
Are you looking for a jointed mouthpiece or a solid one with a port? I really like the Billy Allen bits (he is one heck of a horseman) but the bit that I move to after I take mine out of a snaffle is something very similar to this and I have had very good response and my horses really retain the super soft mouth. With a bit like this though, I won't accept any shanks longer than 6 inches. Much longer than that can make it pretty harsh. I don't know if this would be acceptable for a show though or if the shanks have to be stationary.
When I use a shanked bit, I use my old standby Billy Allen. I've had it for over 12 years and never had a horse that had a problem with it. Mine is a hand made Gregg Darnell:
Remember it is not just the length of the shanks but the ratio of the shanks to the purchase AND the shape of the shank. It is also the hands of the rider. One other thing to remember is that a shanked bit should only be used on a horse that neck reins.
Thanks guys!!! I know that the shank shape has a lot to do with tounge pressure/ where is sits in the mouth when pressure is applied. I just dont know if I should have a jointed or solid piece... ive ridden in both and I would say that I have soft hands, more pressure then just the simple jerk (have a hard time watching people that do a hard jerk to get their horses head down)
I think im going to look more into the Billy Allen bits. Thanks a ton!!!
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