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Thrill Ride 07-28-2013 11:54 PM

Do I Owe Her Money????
 
This is kind of a long story and probably a bit confusing but I will try to make it simple.

So about 2 year ago, a friend of mine named Julia gave me her horse Storm for free, but she claimed to say that she told me if I ever sold Storm I had to give her half back. I don't recall her EVER saying this or even agreeing to it and I have a really good memory.

I ended up selling Storm and she is extremely pissed off and saying that I need to give her half back, which would be $400 or give her some amount and my 10 month old Filly who is out of Storm. I told her no to both.

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So... Story of Storm.

Julia bought her as a weanling from a local livestock auction, she halter broke her then sold her to a neighbor boy who trained her. He sold her back to Julia and she had her for a few years then sold her for $900 to someone else I know named Truda. Truda had her for about a year but then Storm got really pushy with her and she could no longer control her and sold her back to Julia for $900. Then Julia gave her to me. I've had her for about 2 years and I sold her because 1) I have to many horses to work with and I'm showing my neighbors which are getting me a lot farther than what Storm would and 2) I don't have the room for 2-3 horses at my place.

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I have put a TON of training on this horse, everything from backing up, going on a loose rein, becoming traffic safe, being a respectful horse- she used to be EXTREMELY pushy, etc... I have also put money into her, been paying for hay/grain, and have paid for coggins, shots, teeth done, chiro work, and farrier. Storm had never had her teeth done before and the vet said they badly needed it done.

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She was also mad at me for trying to sell Storm for $1200, but then I knocked her down to $900. Julia messaged me on Facebook and said Storm is not worth $900, she is worth $500, and went on saying Storm is a horrible horse that is worthless. She also went and told me neighbor, who is pretty much a grandpa to me that she would be willing to take Storm back for free and she would re-sell her for dirt cheap, like $200.

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There is NO contract what-so-ever. Storm was over at her house for the past 2 weeks because we ran out of grass at my house and I plan on giving her $50 for staying in her pasture, Julia never went out there to even check on them.

I asked her what she would do if I gave her my filly, and she just said sell her. She is desperate for money. On un-employment, has major health issues, but yet she wants to buy my neighbor's horse who I showed last year and did extra training to make this horse work for her, plus our school does Day or Caring and I had them help her. The horse she wants to buy is $1200, and she wants to buy his trailer also that is $1400, yet she can barely make it as it is.

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In this situation, what would you do?

I will be giving her $50 for the time she was over there, but about how she is claiming we made this deal. I never re-call it and my neighbor was there when she claims she made the deal and he doesn't remember her saying it either. It is also really hard to ignore her, and she is really good about talking bad about people.

OutOfTheLoop 07-29-2013 12:02 AM

For once, I see someone on the good side of not having a contract. It is your word against hers. Pay her the 50$ you said you would and be done with it. If she gave you the horse, then tough titty, its no longer her property or financial gain.
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tinaev 07-29-2013 12:18 AM

Well I suppose it depends on how much value you put on your friendship. If you don't care to keep her as a friend (which as you've made it sound in this thread, she isn't much of a friend anyway) I'd just write her off and not worry about what she says. There is nothing in writing and she can't enforce this.

If you want to keep the peace, give her $100. Half the amount she said she would have sold the horse for had you given it back to her.

alexischristina 07-29-2013 12:35 AM

I don't think you owe her anything, if she IS as desperate for cash as you say she is then I wouldn't put it past her to make up that little bit of 'information' in hopes of getting some money out of you. But like another has said, if you want to keep the friendship you might just have to cough up the $400.

Thrill Ride 07-29-2013 01:16 AM

Its not even really a friendship, its mostly I just know her. She started a lot of crap with the horse she is hoping to buy and we haven't been on the best of terms with eachothe for a few months. I asked her what she was going to do if I didn't give her anything, and she said then then when you run out of food or money I'm going to say tough luck with bringing your horse over here because I have this big pasture. One thing for darn sure I don't even trust having a horse over there, there is so much junk in that pasture. I had to put Storm over there for 2 weeks because she was beating up my show horse really bad and her daughter.

I'm a person who is really picky with my money and spends VERY wisely.

My2Geldings 07-29-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrill Ride (Post 3191905)
This is kind of a long story and probably a bit confusing but I will try to make it simple.

So about 2 year ago, a friend of mine named Julia gave me her horse Storm for free, but she claimed to say that she told me if I ever sold Storm I had to give her half back. I don't recall her EVER saying this or even agreeing to it and I have a really good memory.

I ended up selling Storm and she is extremely pissed off and saying that I need to give her half back, which would be $400 or give her some amount and my 10 month old Filly who is out of Storm. I told her no to both.

----

So... Story of Storm.

Julia bought her as a weanling from a local livestock auction, she halter broke her then sold her to a neighbor boy who trained her. He sold her back to Julia and she had her for a few years then sold her for $900 to someone else I know named Truda. Truda had her for about a year but then Storm got really pushy with her and she could no longer control her and sold her back to Julia for $900. Then Julia gave her to me. I've had her for about 2 years and I sold her because 1) I have to many horses to work with and I'm showing my neighbors which are getting me a lot farther than what Storm would and 2) I don't have the room for 2-3 horses at my place.

----

I have put a TON of training on this horse, everything from backing up, going on a loose rein, becoming traffic safe, being a respectful horse- she used to be EXTREMELY pushy, etc... I have also put money into her, been paying for hay/grain, and have paid for coggins, shots, teeth done, chiro work, and farrier. Storm had never had her teeth done before and the vet said they badly needed it done.

----

She was also mad at me for trying to sell Storm for $1200, but then I knocked her down to $900. Julia messaged me on Facebook and said Storm is not worth $900, she is worth $500, and went on saying Storm is a horrible horse that is worthless. She also went and told me neighbor, who is pretty much a grandpa to me that she would be willing to take Storm back for free and she would re-sell her for dirt cheap, like $200.

---

There is NO contract what-so-ever. Storm was over at her house for the past 2 weeks because we ran out of grass at my house and I plan on giving her $50 for staying in her pasture, Julia never went out there to even check on them.

I asked her what she would do if I gave her my filly, and she just said sell her. She is desperate for money. On un-employment, has major health issues, but yet she wants to buy my neighbor's horse who I showed last year and did extra training to make this horse work for her, plus our school does Day or Caring and I had them help her. The horse she wants to buy is $1200, and she wants to buy his trailer also that is $1400, yet she can barely make it as it is.

---

In this situation, what would you do?

I will be giving her $50 for the time she was over there, but about how she is claiming we made this deal. I never re-call it and my neighbor was there when she claims she made the deal and he doesn't remember her saying it either. It is also really hard to ignore her, and she is really good about talking bad about people.

If you agreed to give her $50 I would do that and give her those couple bucks for what it's worth. As for the rest? I don't think so! I cant believe she would dare ask for a horse and that amount of money which was in fact never even agreed on, unbelievable! Let her talk and say what she has to say. I really would not worry about what comes out of her mouth, clearly she isn't someone with a lot of class and people will sense that and will ignore her anyways.

I would run in the other direction and have nothing to do with her moving forward.

waresbear 07-29-2013 01:26 AM

Tell her no, tell her you are not stupid or forgetful, she gave you the horse and there was no mention of anything like she is claiming now. Tell her to get lost and be done with it, she's someone who thinks you are stupid & forgetful, obviously.

Saskia 07-29-2013 01:29 AM

I don't think you owe her anything either. Settle agistment debts then sell and move on from your friendship.

I would tell her you do no recall this agreement. I would tell her that if she truly had made this agreement it would be written down and agreed to. I'd also tell her that you haven't made $900 from selling Storm, but that you've spent likely thousand/s in feed, vet and care and that you didn't nearly make that back. Say you put hours of training into Storm where as she hasn't paid upkeep and hasn't worked with her. Just be honest about how things are, say how you feel, say what you think and don't accuse her of anything. I think that is the best chance you have at remaining civil but not letting her walk all over you.

Samstead 07-29-2013 03:39 AM

no you don't if she wanted money she should have written a contract, and even if she did, you never signed it so it won't hold up

Thrill Ride 07-29-2013 10:36 AM

Thanks! And we actually never agreed on paying $50 for keeping her over there, but my mom and neighbor said I should just give her that and say its for the time she was over there.


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