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WhyAHorseOfCourse 07-29-2013 01:45 PM

Hoof critique for Jasper
 
I'm wondering what you guys think of these hooves. It's been about 3 weeks since the farrier came.
I recently got a rasp and put a bevel on his hooves 3 days ago. Is there anything more I should take off with the rasp? Are the bars too long?

P.S. I know he has some pretty bad thrush, I'm doing my best to get rid of it!

Front 1
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Front 2.
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WhyAHorseOfCourse 07-29-2013 01:49 PM

Hind hooveshttp://www.horseforum.com/members/54...-1-2-54602.jpg 1

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Hind hooves 2http://www.horseforum.com/members/54...-2-1-54618.jpghttp://www.horseforum.com/members/54...-2-2-54626.jpghttp://www.horseforum.com/members/54...-2-3-54634.jpg

Missy May 07-29-2013 05:24 PM

In some of the pics I have a difficult time telling where the bars start and "end". Either way, the 3rd pic from the top - the left bar appears to be laying over a bit.
The hinds look better than the fronts to me.
You do not have a shot taken from the heels down. That would help to "round out" the pictures, I think. W/o that all I (a non expert) can say is the fronts appear to have to much heel on them, the walls appear to be higher than the sole in some areas - so maybe you got a little to enthusiastic w the rasp - or he has a lot of false sole. And the wall thickness seems different between the two (fronts) although that is likely due to the bevel and camera angle.
I don't really see a lot of thrush damage, so it must be on the run already. They look healthy over all and in general to me to the degree a sound trim would easily make them quite attractive.

oops...I thought it was 3 weeks before they would be trimmed. I would say he didn't get the fronts trimmed well enough 3 weeks ago, but again...there is no "heels downward" picture.

Missy May 07-29-2013 05:39 PM

If it were me, and this is just non-expert me...I would get out my hoof knife and carefully remove the sole just from the seat of corn to see where the live sole "really" is on the heels of the fronts. It just looks likethey are a tad high, not "way" high. At least you would know for sure how high, if at all, they are.

spirit88 07-29-2013 06:11 PM

The toes look long on the first two pictures and i see flare and bars need trimming down.

This is the reason i do my own horses had farrier do daughters horse and not happy at all with job done.

WhyAHorseOfCourse 07-29-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy May (Post 3198586)
In some of the pics I have a difficult time telling where the bars start and "end". Either way, the 3rd pic from the top - the left bar appears to be laying over a bit.
The hinds look better than the fronts to me.
You do not have a shot taken from the heels down. That would help to "round out" the pictures, I think. W/o that all I (a non expert) can say is the fronts appear to have to much heel on them, the walls appear to be higher than the sole in some areas - so maybe you got a little to enthusiastic w the rasp - or he has a lot of false sole. And the wall thickness seems different between the two (fronts) although that is likely due to the bevel and camera angle.
I don't really see a lot of thrush damage, so it must be on the run already. They look healthy over all and in general to me to the degree a sound trim would easily make them quite attractive.

oops...I thought it was 3 weeks before they would be trimmed. I would say he didn't get the fronts trimmed well enough 3 weeks ago, but again...there is no "heels downward" picture.

This is what one of his hind hooves looked like after the farrier trimmed it... I would assume that spot that is not touching the ground is what would have cause the uneven walls you are talking about...? Oh, and the farrier did trim off sole which appeared to be live(waxy), isn't that a "no no", or...?http://www.horseforum.com/attachment...p;d=1375012087

Missy May 07-29-2013 07:19 PM

No, those are the quarters and on even ground they don't normally make contact. I boo boo-ed, I meant the sole appears a tad higher than the walls in some spots on fronts. Ooops. But w/o a "heels downward" shot, it could easily not be the case as it is "2-D".

WhyAHorseOfCourse 07-29-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy May (Post 3199626)
No, those are the quarters and on even ground they don't normally make contact. I boo boo-ed, I meant the sole appears a tad higher than the walls in some spots on fronts. Ooops. But w/o a "heels downward" shot, it could easily not be the case as it is "2-D".

Oh, ok, I'll get some when I go to the barn next time :-)

Trinity3205 07-30-2013 02:40 PM

You do have retained sole and tall bars going on there around the frog. I would clean out the junk there personally. However, leaving the heels a bit high while you heal up that deep sulcus thrush and get the frogs in better shape is ok. Dropping the hors eon sore frogs isnt going to help but they should be slowly rasped down over the next few weeks as the frogs improve.

princessfluffybritches 07-31-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missy May (Post 3198722)
If it were me, and this is just non-expert me...I would get out my hoof knife and carefully remove the sole just from the seat of corn to see where the live sole "really" is on the heels of the fronts. It just looks likethey are a tad high, not "way" high. At least you would know for sure how high, if at all, they are.


Funny you should mention a "peak" . My friend's hooves were turning into pancakes that were wider than high (timely trims!). I've rolled the edges a bit and the hooves are staying together nice. I did take a peek and removed a tiny piece of sole at the seat of corn and the sole was quite thick. I'm not doing any more because she has a farrier.
She was quite upset about the "hole" I left. I told her I needed to see how thick, and I told her it retained dead sole and farrier should remove it. She's still kind of upset. I wrote down things for her to look up on the internet to see what I'm talking about. Never thanked me for removing the chips and some of the flare. Oh well!


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