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gypsyeye805 03-16-2009 04:33 AM

New to the forum- Need some Feedback.
Hello everyone, it took me a while to find you. I'd been searching the web for really good horse board and I think I've come to the right place this time. LOTS of stuff about draft breeds.

So here's my situation, it's a bit lengthy but I'll try the concise version. I'm and adult rider in my 30's not exactly "new" to riding but new to riding a specific discipline. I've been taking lesson since the begining of the year (and I'm getting pretty good). I ride english just because I found it to be more comfortable foe me, and I took to it easier than western. So now I've come to the point where I want to buy my own horse. This will be my first time owning a ridiable horse (I had a pasture pet Morgan for about 4 years). I am sorta tall for a girl (5'9") and I'm a little overweight, and to top it all off I have a weird shaped frame; my torso is short and my legs are really long (36 1/2" inseam) so when I sit atop a horse I feel really weird if he/she is a small/short horse and my legs hang down too far. So when I started looking for horses I started with draft/draft crosses. The first reason being that they've always been my favorite breeds among horses, particularly shires and perch's. Although I'll be 1st time horse owner, I think I have my feet planted firmly in reality meaning I'm conscience of abilities and knowing what I'm able to handle and knowing when I'm in over my head. I've looked at and riden about 40-50 horses so far over the past 2 months (my frustration is mounting) some were wonderful and some were way out of my I passed. Recently my trainer told me to stop looking so hard and when it's time "my horse will find me" (whatever). But I think she may be right. One of the horses I looked at recently is a 12 year old dapple grey perch. He's so sweet and friendly, and should be poster child for the term "dead broke" but yet he still has some fire in his pants. He's worked as carriage horse, and done several renaissance parades, exposed to just about everything and spooks at nothing. I feel very safe, confortable and CONFIDENT when I'm on him. Here's the thing...he's a behemoth at 17.2h and 2000lbs of pure puppy dog. I was really surprised at how comfy he is to ride, he's got fluid movement, not "stopmy" like some other drafts I've riden (he's got a canter that will cover a football field in 2 seconds lol, he quite leggy). I've been back to see and ride him 4 times already and my heart hasn't changed. And it may just be my wishfull thinking, but the last couple of times I think he was exciterd to see me too, I walked out in the pasture to get him he walked right up to me and follwed me out no halter or anything and stood quietly to be tacked up (even with my fumbling). Yesterday when I left he walked along side the gate the entire length of the driveway as we were driving out. So when I told my trainer about him, initially I don't hink she was too concerned, as she probably figured it wouldn't go anywhere. But it's going on close to a month now and I'm still head over heels for this Perch. So she tells me today that she doesn't think it's a good idea because she feels he's "too much horse" for me as a "beginner" ( I was crushed). I've had others say differently, and of course my heart and mind say he's the perfect horse for me, but now I'm doubting myself.

Anyone have any ideas/thoughts, etc. on draft breeds as a first horse. What would be your main concern? Am I overlooking some critical issue? Any and all thoughts and opinions are welcomed (just be nice please even if it's not the answer I'm hoping for :)[/PHP]

Thank you in advance

boxer 03-16-2009 04:38 AM

if he is a gentle giant then I don't see a problem with it. big horses are opnly a problem if they try to muscle in on their owner and small ones can be a problem if they do this too. I personally love draft crosses although I wouldn't want one that big because I'm a shorty with short legs lol. if it's right then it's right.

smrobs 03-16-2009 09:11 AM

My thinking is that it is less about a first horse being a particular breed than it is that the horses training matches the buyers ability. So long as the horse is broke, comfortable, and bombproof and you feel comfortable riding him, I say go for it. Just because he is big doesn't mean that he is "a lot of horse". I have rode some 14hh horses that were a lot of horse and I would not put anyone but a very experienced rider on. He sounds like a sweetie and it appears that he has had very good training. If you like him and feel comfortable and in control all the time, go for it. I have a perch that I just started under saddle and I love him. Let us know what you decide. But as someone here always reminds a person looking to buy a horse, I would advise you to get a vet check before you buy him.............Just in case, you know?

Welcome to the forum by the way. I think you will really like it here, it has a wonderful friendly atmosphere. :)

Meliorn1218 03-16-2009 02:12 PM

It sounds like you really click with this horse. Is it possible for you to take him for a trial period? I think your trainer needs to see for herself your compatibility with this horse. Some horse folks don't like the draft types and won't open their minds to them. If she is one of those, you might have to move on to a different trainer if this horse is "the one." It's also possible your trainer doesn't feel this horse is suitable for your needs, but honestly, I think when you find a horse you trust and feel confident with, then that's the horse you go with, and everything else will work itself out. I'd go for it! :D

CheyAut 03-18-2009 04:09 AM

I would ask your trainer to expand on why she feels he is too much horse for you. You certainly don't want to get him and her be right, then you and the horse will be miserable. But at the same time, if you feel right riding him and click with him, sure don't want the trainer to be wrong and you pass up a good horse! Just make sure you're not overlooking things because you are frustrated and impatient (said from experience haha) Good luck! :)

LeahKathleen 03-18-2009 04:22 AM

I think you should bring your trainer to watch you ride him if possible, and if she can't come, take a video. Let her see why you're so smitten with this particular horse, and maybe she'll change her mind. I agree - when a horse is "the one" you just have to go for it.

When I got Daisy, everyone said she had no personality, was stubborn, and didn't bond with anyone, but I just knew we were meant to be. And I wouldn't trade her for the world. She's got personality to boot, and we get along great.

Go with your gut, and see if you can't convince your trainer of this horse's perfection. :]

wanderlust 03-18-2009 07:34 PM

I agree with the others. If you understand what it takes to own a horse, and are prepared to undergo those challenges, then this horse sounds like a good match.

Joshie 03-18-2009 08:42 PM

I think a rider will often do better if they let their instructor choose their first horse rather than picking that horse themselves.

danastark 03-19-2009 08:46 PM

Welcome to the forum! Like you, I'm 5' 9" and I've always been more comfortable on a horse that fills out my legs. My previous horse was about 16.3 and that was great. My current horse is a draft cross and he is currently 17.3 and growing and I love him to death. He has a great, calm mind, loving personality and like the gelding you are looking at, he is extremely comfortable to ride.

Just a few things that are less favorable about him so if you buy this gelding you go in with your eyes open.

A horse that big eats ALOT! My guy tucks into 6-7 flakes of grass hay a day. He doesn't need much in the way of concentrates (pellets).

I have had to search to find tack that fits him appropriately which is doable but you most often can't just walk into any tack store and find a bridle, saddle, girth, blanket, bell boots, halter, etc. that will fit your horse. I've had to measure my colt and order most things on line.

I am currently in the market for a new horse trailer because he really doesn't fit in my standard 7' tall X 6.5' trailer anymore.

I have never had this issue but I guess a lot of farriers either refuse to work on the big guys or charge you a lot more.

When worming him, I have to use more than one wormer to get the correct dosage.

If you are boarding him, the standard 12X12 stall would not work, you'd need at least a 12X 16 which could be more expensive. I keep my guy out in the pasture.

If you can afford the extra costs involved, then none of these things are reasons not to buy him.

Find out why your trainer feels he is "too much" horse for you and if she can't come up with a good reason, follow your heart :D

gypsyeye805 03-20-2009 04:20 AM

Hi Everyone,

Sorry it took so long to get back, been running around like crazy for the past few days. I really appreciate the wonderful feedback from everyone, believe me it really helped. I took the advice of the trainer and another friend (some of the advice not all) and looked at two other horses this week, one was very nice (clyde/paint cross); sweet personality, broke, and total eye candy-tons of feathers with a big dappled butt lol. But the other seemed a bit more trouble than he was worth, very fussy and didn't really seem as though he was liking all of the attention...could have just been a bad day, but he's too far of a drive to give it a second go. Honestly I think it was all a formailty... I'm going back again next weekend to see Jimmy and if it still feels right I'm bringing him home.

Danastark- When I read your post I couldn't help but lol. I've been thinking the same thing about the cost of tack and supplies being darn near doubled in price because of his size. He does have a few items that are coming with him, a few halters, bitless bridle and bareback pad. Not sure if he'll need a draft saddle or just a regular wide saddle (he'll have to be measured). I'l be boarding him at a facility that offers private "mini Pastures", up to 3 horses can be in a single pasture. Jimmy will be by himself in the pasture. I'm not sure of the exact dimensions but I figure if the pasture normally holds 3 horses he should have enough room I'm guessing? The horses get 2-3 flakes of oat hay in the am and 2-3 flakes of alfalfa in the pm. Anything over 3 flakes you have to pay an additional $30.00 p/mo for x-tra feed. So we'll see how that goes.

I tried to post some links to a few pictures of Jimmy, I hope it works let me know.

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