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argrafton 07-31-2013 03:24 PM

Buying A Horse With No Brand Inspection
 
I originally lived in Northern California where I bought my weanling Apha filly from a breeder in 2010. I was ignorant in not knowing about needing a brand inspection. I moved to Montana in 2011 with my horse and luckily never got in trouble for not having one. Now, 2 years later, I am moving her back to California and am JUST finding out about needing a brand inspection...I am told I can get her take away for not having one when I got her. This "breeder" apparently didn't think that was very important. Can I get one now? She is registered in my name. I am very worried and am in need of advice. Where do I go from here?

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 03:29 PM

Yes you should have one, you get one in MT.

argrafton 07-31-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77 (Post 3217505)
Yes you should have one, you get one in MT.


But will they just give me one with no issues considering never having one?

Muriel 07-31-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by argrafton (Post 3217545)
But will they just give me one with no issues considering never having one?

I just got a brand inspection in Idaho when I bought my KMH. I was talking to the inspector and she indicated (again in Idaho) you would be turned over for prosecution when you get the brand inspection. So yes, you may get in trouble, if you do it is like everything else, you own up to your own ignorance, pay the fine and move on. Good luck and get one done before moving to CA where it will likely be way more expensive.

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by argrafton (Post 3217545)
But will they just give me one with no issues considering never having one?

I have never had to show a previous inspection to get a new one. Matter of fact I have never had to show proof of ownership.(I live in NV). I buy an annual every year. The gal I use comes out, writes up a description, notes brands or scars and I cut her a check.

Cat 07-31-2013 03:52 PM

Not all states require a brand inspection. If you live in Montana and need one to move back to California - how will they know you originally bought hte horse in California without a brand inspection?

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 04:08 PM

When you cross the border into CA you HAVE to show your health papers, brand inspection and have an exact address of where you will be staying or moving to in CA.
We were back and forth from NV to CA this spring shipping cattle and hauling our horses back and forth and at the port of entry we were required to aside and bring all of our paperwork inside. Of course you get around the port of entries, depends on where you are entering the state at.

argrafton 07-31-2013 04:14 PM

Here's what I'm looking at doing: Getting a BI for the purpose of traveling from Montana to California. Will they ask about where I got her? Or will they just leave it at that? COWCHICK77, did she need proof when she first did BI for you? Also, does anyone have any idea what the fines look like if it did come to that?

morganarab94 07-31-2013 04:42 PM

Stupid question maybe, but what is a brand inspection..?

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by argrafton (Post 3217985)
Here's what I'm looking at doing: Getting a BI for the purpose of traveling from Montana to California. Will they ask about where I got her? Or will they just leave it at that? COWCHICK77, did she need proof when she first did BI for you? Also, does anyone have any idea what the fines look like if it did come to that?

No I never did have to show proof of ownership. But it may different up there. Since the horse is registered in your name I wouldn't worry about it.
Like you plan on doing, get a brand inspection for the purpose of crossing state lines. Get a Coggins and a health certificate from your vet. I keep all those things plus a photocopy of the registration papers in a binder that stays in the pickup. Then you come to the port of entry you are prepared and organized.

I don't know what the fines are, but supposedly they can seize your truck, trailer and livestock if caught without the inspection.
This might answer some of your questions for MT
Montana Department of Livestock - Frequently Asked Questions

You might want to be clear on the states your traveling through as well.


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