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cowgirlnay 07-31-2013 06:45 PM

From cutting to reining....
 
I have been showing in cutting for the past 3 years, I purchased my horse 2 years ago, and he is a finished cutter, but I believe he has had a tiny bit of reining training as well (one of his previous owners was a reiner). He has a huge stop, and can spin so fast it makes me dizzy. Anyways, I am contemplating the thought of not showing in cutting after this season is over in September...I would like to take a break, cutting is getting very expensive, and I'm just not a huge fan of the competition aspect of it and going to shows all the time (I get really nervous).

So, I've been brainstorming what I could do with my horse if I'm not cutting. I will stay away from any penning, sorting, etc activities that involve cows as to not mess him up as a cutter, but I want to keep riding him and keep him busy and in shape. I have a reiner friend who has an awesome indoor arena down the road from me and always invites me out there to ride, so thats an option...I'm sure he would teach me a few things.

Anyone have experience turning an ex-cutter on to reining? I wouldn't be getting very competitive with it, but just wondering if anyone has experience with transitioning a cutter to do some reining. I know it's possible! I just don't really know much about reining at all, so still on the fence as to whether this would be a good activity to try out with my horse! Any input is appreciated :)

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 06:55 PM

I say go try it and see if you like it.
One of the transitions that may difficult between cutters and reiners is actually the spin. For the pivot foot in the spin most cutters back around the outside foot rather than stepping around the inside foot. If that's not the case and your horse can do both a reiner spin and the back around needed to change directions cutting, in my opinion, it will be easy.

cowgirlnay 07-31-2013 07:06 PM

Thanks! Yeah I have been told that my horse steps behind when spinning, so if he was spinning to the right, his left foot reaches behind the right foot to go across, when in fact he should be stepping in front of his right foot. Is that what you mean? I have worked a little to get him to correct it, but didn't really get anywhere!

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 07:20 PM

I was mainly talking about his hind(pivot feet) but yes your right, the fronts too. Cutters, as you know, are more "sucked back" hence the stepping behind. In a reining spin it is about forward movement so that is what makes it a hard transition.

I think there was an article in Western Horseman a few months back about cross over training with the reiner and cutter to reined cowhorse or something like that let me see if I can find a link...

ETA:Can't find an online version, it was this last winter in Western Horseman and the article featured Russell Dilday that's all I can remember.

cowgirlnay 07-31-2013 07:33 PM

I gotcha...thanks!

franknbeans 07-31-2013 08:37 PM

I have heard that reined cow horses also suck back on the spin more that the true reiners. I have thought about doing both, but seems that will be impossible, since the I would think you would need to teach one spin or the other.

COWCHICK77 07-31-2013 09:28 PM

It takes some work as cowhorses can get bound up too(not as much as a cutter in my opinion)
cowhorse vs. reining spins are pretty much the same except in cowhorse they don't have to be real pretty. Speed and cadence is what scores well, it's okay to have the head a little more up and nose out than what you would see in reining. Keeping that inside pivot foot planted isn't as crucial, he just better not be traveling.


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