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morganshow11 04-02-2009 08:20 PM

charging jumps?????....HELP!!!!!!
 
So my horse Clippy is a barrel racer, but he also can jump like 5ft. And i have only jumped him about 3'9''. And now he is starting to charge the jumps how can i stop him from doing this???

xx chico 04-02-2009 08:41 PM

My pony is the exact same. He rushes like no tomorrow lol.

I've found walking up to a little cross rail and making him trot over it from a few feet away worked well.
Another exercise I used was the figure 8 with jumps. Each time you go across the diagonal you jump, or basically each time you reach the middle.

Spyder 04-02-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by morganshow11 (Post 281777)
So my horse Clippy is a barrel racer, but he also can jump like 5ft. And i have only jumped him about 3'9''. And now he is starting to charge the jumps how can i stop him from doing this???


I believe you posted that you hate dressage so showing you exercises that will help probably won't do much in your case.

Good luck.

xeventer17 04-02-2009 09:02 PM

spyder has a point. if you refuse dressage you're screwed. the essence of riding is dressage, if you want to jump, you need it, there's no way around that. if you ever want your horse to stop charging you're just gonna have to suck it up and deal with dressage.

Winter Filly 04-02-2009 10:04 PM

I agree with the two above post. Jumping really is dressage with jumps in it.

xx chico 04-02-2009 10:05 PM

That is true, I didn't know that you refused to practice dressage .. :?
In that case I'm not sure if what I suggested above will work then.

Spastic_Dove 04-02-2009 10:11 PM

I had this problem with Diesel. I've been working more on Dressage...it's helping.

mylilminiwinny 04-02-2009 11:11 PM

I've been riding my mom's horse, Silver, and the first time I rode her she was charging the jumps but I didn't have much time to work on half halts. So the next time I rode her I dropped the poles to the ground and I trotted through them and stopped in the center of the lines and backed up and then finished it, after I did this for awhile she didn't anticipate what I wanted her to do so she would sort of wait for me to ask.

ScarlettPompey 04-03-2009 06:15 AM

I guess it's difficult to provide an absolute solution without seeing what he's doing. Could you post a vid of how he's jumping? Might help with the exercises...

One thing I did notice about Clippy is that he seems to be developing a lot of muscle on the underside of his neck - this can be due to a high head set and 'bracing' against hands. As my instructure says, when you get to that position, the ball really is in the horses court! :)
If this is the case, the I'm afraid it's lots of flat work. MIEventer and Spyder have written many articles on what the correct frame should look and feel like, and useful exercises to achieve it (Much better explained than I could ever do!) With the 'energy' coming from behind and the horse forward and soft into the contact, you're then in the driving seat! If a horse is carrying itself (and you) correctly, then it makes it very difficult for the spooks and bolts to occur!

Ok - so we now have the correct frame.

Next step is to ensure the canter is 'organised'... (note all this is done without jumps!)... By organised, I mean it should be rythmical and a steady tempo (count the beats in your head or canter to music). The reason why I feel this is important, is that I think a lot of horses 'rush' to compensate for being uncomfortable/disorganised/over-faced. Again there are a lot of flat work exercises for this... circles, transitions, spirals, extensions...
Then move onto a course of canter poles... aim to maintain the tempo even when riding the poles!

Finally - and could be done in conjunction with the canter work, introduce grids and cavaletti work. Note that even by this point the aim is not how high, it's maintaining that rhythm! Start simple like trotting cavalettis, with an element at the end.... and build up to more complex patterns like jump...stride...stride...bounce.....bounce etc. It's great for improving bascule, agility and providing a mental work-out to boot!

My pony I rode when i was about 15 used to charge jumps. I had a really great instructer who helped me through (similarly to what was described above). We didn't jump anything over about 50 cms until we'd developed the correct paces and 'shapes' over fences... It took us nearly a year to perfect! Then one day she put up a 1m, and we just 'popped' right over... in fact it didn't even feel that big!

Please make sure this is sorted before you try the x-country you want to do! Because we want you to be safe!!

As for not liking dressage... why don't you mix it up by having a friend/sister shout out commands (like trot to canter... 20m circle at A... shoulder in... etc) to make it a bit more of a challenge and more varied??

JustDressageIt 04-03-2009 01:34 PM

Go back to the basics. Clippy has no balance or correct muscling to be able to jump without charging.


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