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bit of zip 08-18-2013 05:51 PM

new here...new to western...can a welsh pony hunter be "pleasureable?
 
Hello,
i am NEW to this site :) I am an older adult (50) who has ridden hunters my whole life. after several challenges with organ rejection after a transplant and 45 years of being an insulin dependent diabetic, my body just can't take the aerobic nature of riding the hunters any more. I recently put a western pony saddle on my very nice hunter pony and found that I am quite comfortable riding in a western saddle. I know the saddle is too small and this was his his first time under western tack, but do you think he can learn to go under western tack to do some open pleasure at local shows (not breed, not rated...multiple seats in these divisions from english to saddle seat to western). i know he needs to learnt o jog and lope and I have read and watched everything i can find :)

i tried to upload a video....I am not sure if it loaded :)

bit of zip 08-18-2013 06:30 PM

Video....link
 
Here is the video link. i know he wont be any western pleasure star :) I just want to not get laughed out of the local ring and perhaps grab a ribbon here and there and be able to show again. One of my problems is that in my area, i am rather known and despite my disabilities, show management will not let me drop down to the lower levels.


jaydee 08-18-2013 06:40 PM

I don't know anything about WP but you can certainly have some fun training him to do something different
The welsh breeds usually have a naturally higher head carriage but can still learn to stretch and reach down

dressagebelle 08-18-2013 06:48 PM

Could you maybe start at just some local "fun shows"? I know in my area, we have all sorts of shows, everything from your basic cheap back yard type fun show where most of the beginners get their start, to rated shows. If you have some nice low key local fun shows, you should start there, build up his experience under a western saddle, and your confidence in doing a new discipline.

Obviously he's not a big fancy western pleasure Quarter Horse, but I think with a little work he'd do fine in some local shows, and you can still get your showing fix. You should definitely find a saddle that fits him first, before really working him in a western saddle. If someone decides to talk about you, or laugh at you, they are just not confident in themselves, and as hard as it is, you should ignore it. You've done amazing continuing to ride, and do what you love in spite of all your medical issues, and that's something to be proud of. I used to barrel race my Thoroughbred mare in some local shows in an english saddle, as there was no way I'd find a western saddle that fit her, but I wanted to keep her from getting sour doing the same thing over and over again, as she got bored quite easily. I know that people thought I was weird, but she still kicked butt, and I had a blast, and that's what counts. He's a cute little guy, I'd seriously take him in a heart beat! I love the ponies. Good luck with him, and just cause he's so cute, of course more pictures would be awesome. Just keep working on half halting, and slowing down his trot so he starts to jog, and get him to bring his head down a little more, and I think you'll do fine. Good luck with him, and remember to just keep having fun.

bit of zip 08-18-2013 06:51 PM

I am in Mass...and western trainers seem few and far between....i would love if anyone could give me some ideas on who to call or who to stay away from :) and yes....i think it will be fun...anytime I can learn something new it is fun!! i fell as i have learned a HUGE amount in a week of researching...i even picked up a nice used western saddle in a 14" that fits him. a bit of a challenge, since he is so short backed and I am so small, but he is also pretty wide thrugh the shoulders. when I wath videos of welsh pleasure under western tack, i notice the winners went with a more "welsh" headset...when he relaxes, he can go with a low head but I think i prefer a little bit of roundness such as the arabs tend to go under western tack. I LOVE the look of a "real" western pleasure stock horse but I dont expect to really get that from him :) he is a try-er though, and has been a Godsend to me since I got so sick.....he takes care of me and I feel safe on him, which is 1. no small feat and 2. very important at this point in my life :)

bit of zip 08-18-2013 07:01 PM

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Because I am madly in love with this pony, and I cannot help but show him off, here he is: his adorable little face, him jumping (the pony can jump and was a successful medium, and a shot of him at indoors winning the mediums :) the fact that he babysits me is what makes me love him, but i do apppreciate his ability as a nice hunter pony too :)

jaydee 08-18-2013 07:06 PM

Have you tried Heritage Farm in Easthampton? They do a lot of western and do lessons - not sure about the WP - but you could ask.
They seem really nice people and people seem to speak well of them.
Heritage Farm | Easthampton, Massachusetts | Since 1972
Theres also Crowleys Horses in the same area but I don't know anything about them other than they do trail rides, lessons and sell horses
Riding-Lessons-

bit of zip 08-18-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydee (Post 3392514)
Have you tried Heritage Farm in Easthampton? They do a lot of western and do lessons - not sure about the WP - but you could ask.
They seem really nice people and people seem to speak well of them.
Heritage Farm | Easthampton, Massachusetts | Since 1972
Theres also Crowleys Horses in the same area but I don't know anything about them other than they do trail rides, lessons and sell horses
Riding-Lessons-

heritage would be the Roucher's place? I didnt think of them...thanks. I was thinking, when you posted, that it was Heritage in RI....Mark's place - lol and I was like...uh....not western ;)

at this point I am really looking for someone to travel to me...I am not sure i have the energy yet to do a day trip for a lesson, and still have the energy left over to ride. Horse showing is hard enough....i am aiming for a little show this coming weekend. the last one I did the pony won the open pleasure classic under english tack...the judge was a pony person - lol. I passed out coming out of the ring and called it a day. I was thinking some lessons on a well trained horse might be in order if I cant find a travelling trainer...then perhaps some would transfer to the mini-beast.

LouieThePalomino 08-18-2013 08:37 PM

I think pretty much any horse can be ridden western. Hes such a cute pony! When working on the jog though, sit down and relax, in the video you are leaning forward and bouncing everywhere. You should also work him long and low and get that head down and relaxed :)

Good luck!
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mrstorres2566 08-18-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydee (Post 3392514)
Have you tried Heritage Farm in Easthampton? They do a lot of western and do lessons - not sure about the WP - but you could ask.
They seem really nice people and people seem to speak well of them.
Heritage Farm | Easthampton, Massachusetts | Since 1972
Theres also Crowleys Horses in the same area but I don't know anything about them other than they do trail rides, lessons and sell horses
Riding-Lessons-

Heritage is right up the road from where I live, and from what I have seen, they are fantastic.


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