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AnnaW123 08-22-2013 06:08 PM

Bolting Cob! :(
 
Hey guys :) I've just started loaning a 15'3 Cob x called Jazz, he is 13 and is an ex riding school horse. He has been allowed to slip into some bad habits, and obviously hasnt been worked very much as his current owner said she's never cantered on him ... He is quite bargy and lacking in respect, for example:

On the way out of his field today, he will bolt but only a tiny trot to get to some nice grass, then do this repeatedly until we have mini-bolted our way to where I was trying to get him to! On the way back to his field he does the same, I sought help from the yard owner who wrapped the lead-rope around the noseband of his head collar and he went with her FINE - i guess he knows she doesnt take any $@#$! I tried to lunge him today, and he did a few really nice circles of trot... but then bolted off to eat grass again!!

Grrr - any advice? :) I know I need to be more firm with him, i guess in honesty I'm just slightly scared of him because he's a lot bigger and stronger than me. :)

SlideStop 08-22-2013 06:24 PM

You hit the nail on the head. You must be more firm with him. Many school horses have been allowed to get away with taking advantage of their handlers. If he were mine I'd get a type halter on him and practice walk and stop. If he doesn't stop snap the lead a few times and make him back up. When he goes to go ahead of you same thing, stop him dead in his tracks and back him up.

franknbeans 08-22-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnaW123 (Post 3430817)
Hey guys :) I've just started loaning a 15'3 Cob x called Jazz, he is 13 and is an ex riding school horse. He has been allowed to slip into some bad habits, and obviously hasnt been worked very much as his current owner said she's never cantered on him ... He is quite bargy and lacking in respect, for example:

On the way out of his field today, he will bolt but only a tiny trot to get to some nice grass, then do this repeatedly until we have mini-bolted our way to where I was trying to get him to! On the way back to his field he does the same, I sought help from the yard owner who wrapped the lead-rope around the noseband of his head collar and he went with her FINE - i guess he knows she doesnt take any $@#$! I tried to lunge him today, and he did a few really nice circles of trot... but then bolted off to eat grass again!!

Grrr - any advice? :) I know I need to be more firm with him, i guess in honesty I'm just slightly scared of him because he's a lot bigger and stronger than me. :)

See that last line? That, in combination with your statement about the yard owner not taking any crap pretty much says it all to me. He has your number, and now you have a choice. Either you put on your big girl panties and try and ride him out of it, or, if you are a bit more conservative, like I am, I probably would work him on the ground, since that is where I would be more comfortable giving him some CTG moments until he respected me. You will still have to gain his respect after you get back on him, but I find I am more confident once I know I can control them on the ground. That is just me. To keep him walking where you want him to go, here is my suggestion. Every time he speeds up-CIRCLE. It may take you a while to get where you are going, but make it tough on him. He wants to trot-fine. Trot a couple circles, then go back to a walk like you want. He trots again-repeat. If he tries to walk in the circle-make him trot.

If he does that on the lunge I would be connecting with his fat little butt with my whip to wake him up a bit! Again-he needs to respect you, and you need to work n that regardless

Slidestop-you and I were posting at the same time. I actually saw...on a thread here.....somewhere.. A trainer training a young horse to walk nicely and not get ahead. It was great. Use a rope halter-and walk. If the horse pulls or gets ahead-turn, which pulls on their head because they are, initially not paying attention. They actually pull on themselves and learn really quickly to walk with their handler. I will try and find it. I did it with my guy today when he got pushy-it took less than 5 minutes and he nicely walked into his stall instead of rushing.

franknbeans 08-22-2013 06:30 PM

Here it is. It was in the thread about the 4 yo that won't tie.


jaydee 08-22-2013 07:20 PM

He has to learn some manners and that's going to mean you getting tough with him
Cobs can be really intimidating when they decide to throw their weight around - they're such power packs and greediness is one of their other less endearing qualities
It will help if you have side reins or grass reins on him when you lunge - attached to either his saddle or a surcingle just tight enough to prevent him getting his head down. You can then concentrate on giving him more 'encouragement' with your whip
Until you've established who's in charge I would always lead him to and from the field in what I call a field bridle - basically any old bridle that fits him, doesn't need a noseband, you attach the lead rein to the type of connector strap you see on in hand show horses - it looks like this and fastens onto the bit
Fast Tack Direct
You'll have a lot more control of him off a bit and he'll soon learn what's expected of him.

AnnaW123 08-24-2013 03:38 PM

Thanks for your replies everyone! I have really taken on what you have all said and know that I need to be much more tough with him and show him who's boss! I have got a rope halter for him and plan on doing some much needed groundwork with him tomorrow, as long as it isnt too rainy! :)
Thanks again!


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