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jannette 08-25-2013 11:06 PM

Can a horse change color and patern?
 
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I purchased a new mare about 3 weeks ago. I love her she's great, so regardless im keeping her. however I went over today and picked up her papers, becuz i'd forgot to get them when I picked her up, and the picture on the papers do not match her at all. her papers do say she is a gray with tobiano pattern but she looks now at 13 like a completely different horse..ive purchased all of my horses through this breeder and have always been very happy and never had a reason not to trust her sooo what do you think? here's the pics...can this be??? she said if you wet her down you can still see the original patter.https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/h...05784213_n.jpg

Poseidon 08-25-2013 11:08 PM

All gray horses are born a "normal" color and change to gray with age. She was born black tobiano and remains genetically black underneath the gray, but changed as she aged.

NdAppy 08-25-2013 11:13 PM

Ditto what Po said. And the lady was correct, soak her and you can see where she would have originally had the black base. :wink:

barrelbeginner 08-26-2013 12:19 AM

U can kinda tell.. evven with her not soaked.. I think so.. Pretty horse btw

Dreamcatcher Arabians 08-26-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jannette (Post 3460129)
I purchased a new mare about 3 weeks ago. I love her she's great, so regardless im keeping her. however I went over today and picked up her papers, becuz i'd forgot to get them when I picked her up, and the picture on the papers do not match her at all. her papers do say she is a gray with tobiano pattern but she looks now at 13 like a completely different horse..ive purchased all of my horses through this breeder and have always been very happy and never had a reason not to trust her sooo what do you think? here's the pics...can this be??? she said if you wet her down you can still see the original patter.https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/h...05784213_n.jpg

That's why, when I'm breeding for color and pattern, I won't use a grey. They're all born either chestnut, black or bay with the pattern and then they start to fade (grey out) as they get older until some don't even look like they have a pattern anymore. She's just greying out, right now she's looking kind of flea bitten and you can still see her pattern.

jannette 08-26-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians (Post 3460801)
That's why, when I'm breeding for color and pattern, I won't use a grey. They're all born either chestnut, black or bay with the pattern and then they start to fade (grey out) as they get older until some don't even look like they have a pattern anymore. She's just greying out, right now she's looking kind of flea bitten and you can still see her pattern.


that's why the breeder was selling her, she got a good deal and she's a great little horse but she wasn't going to fit into her breeding, she breeds for loud color and big butts :).

thanx everyone for your help!!! now that I really look at her I can see patterns in her gray..crazy I just didn't know this was possible lol :D

nickers103 08-26-2013 02:11 PM

I never knew this was possible either; at least, in a paint pattern that is. I've heard (and seen) plenty of what would appear to be solid colored horses turn gray but I have never heard of a paint colored horse turning gray. That's really cool!

Peppy Barrel Racing 08-26-2013 02:33 PM

Grey trumps all base colors. If the horse inherited a grey gene from it's grey parent then it will grey no matter what the base is. Genetically the horse is still its base color though.
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NdAppy 08-26-2013 02:46 PM

Just think of grey as a "blanket" that covers all other colors.

Peppy Barrel Racing 08-26-2013 02:52 PM

Yes exactly ^^^
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