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cherriebark 04-21-2009 01:33 PM

Frequent urination, runny poo
I just got a new horse a few weeks ago, and I always spend at least a month freaking out about every little thing when I get a new horse. I have noticed recently that he seems to pee a lot. Yesterday, I took him out for a trail ride and he peed in his stall before I got him out, at the hitching post while I was tacking up, during the trail ride, and again as I was untacking. This seems really excessive. He also poops a lot on the trail, but it is little poops. Toward the end of the ride it starts to get really runny. I think the pooping might be something to do with nervousness (he's only 3 and has only been on trails for a week or so) but if he's nervous I find it odd that he would stop to pee with me on his back. He has been regularly de-wormed, his diet is good. I have noticed his lympth nodes slightly swollen for a few days, but otherwise he seems fine. He is bright and has energy, he eats and drinks just fine. Any thoughts? Is this enough to call out the vet? I don't like to call the vet unless I have a really good reason, obviously. Advice?

twogeldings 04-21-2009 02:20 PM

I would check with a vet pronto. Swollen lymph nodes can be a sign of Strangles. I would also be very concerned about runny feces. Something serious could be going on, have you taken his temperature? Does he have a runny nose of lots of discharge from the eye?

kitten_Val 04-21-2009 02:56 PM

It may be just nerves indeed. But to be on safe side call the vet.

G and K's Mom 04-21-2009 03:15 PM

The pee and poop wouldn't necessarily worry me with a young horse doing something that's new, but the lymph nodes being swollen is a concern. I would get it checked.

As a side note, is it possible for you to get in contact with the people that had the horse before to see if they have an outbreak of anything at their place?

Peggysue 04-21-2009 04:10 PM

what is his diet? The pooping doesn't bother me at all my boarders horse poops at every turn LOL literally he stops and leaves three or four balls ... his is also moister by the end of the ride...

the freq urine and the swollen glades IMO warrent at least a call to the vet.. urinating that often MAY be a sign of kidney or liver problems which the sooner you catch it the better..

pantha 04-21-2009 10:55 PM

I agree I'd be looking at kidney issues.

Countrygal892000 04-21-2009 11:46 PM

My boyfriend and I discussed this one and both agreed that you should have a vet look at it.. but first here is what you should do... we agreed it may be a bean...kinda like a urinary tract infection... so try and get his man part out and clean it off... make sure there is no excess dirt and grime... use some iodine to clean it... but the lymph nodes are the thing that tells us maybe to call a vet... check his temp... and if it was strangles and he has had it for two weeks he would be on the verge of dying.. and his lymph nodes would be really really swollen...

cherriebark 04-22-2009 12:00 AM

He has no other symptoms, his eyes and nose are clear, he seems very bright and alert. He is acting totally normally. He is also vaccinated for strangles, and I do not see the respiratory symptoms of strangles. Although swollen lymph nodes is a sign of strangles, it is also a sign of any other infection in the body, so I am not worried about strangles.

He does not seem to strain or have difficulty when he urinates, and it seems to me like he empties his bladder completely. He just does it more than I would expect. I've checked his TPR, all normal. He appears hydrated. His urine is quite clear, indicating sufficient hydration.

I have a salt lick for him in his stall, he has been completely going to town on it. It's been there a week and it's almost half gone(50# block). Perhaps licking the salt makes him thirsty, hence making him urinate? Has anyone experienced this? It seems odd to me.

He eats orchard grass morning and night, with a scoop of alfalfa pellets with flax seed and some weight builder (he's underweight). I have never heard of these things causing excessive thirst or urination.

I'm really perplexed, especially since his behavior is normal and he seems to be feeling very good.

Peggysue 04-22-2009 06:49 AM

The alfalfa could POSSIBLY cause more urination...

Many times in the beginning of something like this they do act and look fine... at least give your vet a call and do a phone consult ...

close2prfct 04-22-2009 08:53 AM

swollen lymph nodes signal some type of infection if not strangles it could be anything frequent urination could be a bladder/kidney infection as far as the poop goes it could be totally unrelated but either way I would have him checked by a vet

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