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jewelerin74 09-01-2013 02:23 PM

foundering, what do I feed?
Just found out my rescue has founder. We just have her on round bales and a mineral block. What do you suggest I do for feeding and other things to save her. They said that we have a chance to save her. What can I do?!
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bit of zip 09-01-2013 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by jewelerin74 (Post 3519073)
Just found out my rescue has founder. We just have her on round bales and a mineral block. What do you suggest I do for feeding and other things to save her. They said that we have a chance to save her. What can I do?!
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Bute, ACE and stand him in an ice bath for as long as you can. No grain!! Keep the horse as quiet and immobile as possible (stall rest). Make foam booties with a slightly built up heel. we also soaked to hay to remove any excess sugar, and feed the worst quality hay you can find.

1 gm but once a day and 1 gram ace 2x day is my vet's rec.

Northernstar 09-01-2013 08:55 PM

Awww, poor guy! Glad you're on top of it! Yes, no grain is essential, and be sure that any hay given is a bland 1st cutting - no rich alfalfa, which will contribute to a worse condition... good luck to you and your girl! :)

Missy May 09-01-2013 11:08 PM

I am sorry for the poor girl. Did you switch her feed w/o transitioning? What kind of hay are the round bales? Did a vet say you had a chance to save her? I am hoping you do. I am asking, b/c the vet should have good dietary advice - follow it. Alfalfa, especially stemmy alfalfa isn't necessary a bad thing, however, it depends on the individual horse and her history. That is why it is best to involve a vet.

As others have said, no grain. Know the quantity and quality of her intake. Weigh and record it. Manage the pain, it is extremely stressful on them and their immune system. The pain should be managed through both chemicals and boots/padding as someone suggested. Again, ask the vet.

I hope she pulls through.

jewelerin74 09-02-2013 01:54 PM

We had a farrier come out from our church and he said it was mild and just starting. He said with proper caring withing 6 to 9 months it will be gone. He said old bad hay and ultra hoof. Not sure about her past except for the last three years. She got round bales and every once in a while some cow grain. Had a bad pasture. Sense we have gotten her and her sister together she gets round bales. Not sure of what kind. Oat meal treats and we ride her in the neighbors field and that is clover that we let her eat. Now she can't. She is going to be strictly on old hay and the ultra hoof. We have a very small corral that is almost all dirt that is the only good thing about it is it helps for her.
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stevenson 09-02-2013 02:06 PM

you dont want bad hay. Old hay can be dry and they will not want to eat it. You want a lower protein hay . A late hay should be lower in proteins than early hay. No grains. you should have a Vet out if possible. Some grass hays are very high in protein , more so than alfalfa.
The only way to know the protein levels in hay is to have it tested.

deserthorsewoman 09-02-2013 03:54 PM

What state are her feet in? Is she sore, if so, how sore? Standing and still walking or down most of the time?
How is her weight?
Laminitis/ founder doesn't come from nothing. Something must have triggered it. Depending on what that was, ' treatment" varies.
If it's diet related laminitis, you want low sugar/ starch hay, always available, no grain, a vitamin/mineral supplement. Don't give bad quality, old hay. She needs the right nutrients to grow healthy feet. Period. Alfalfa is low starch/ sugar and perfectly fine, unless she's overweight, it provides more calories than grasshay.
How exactly did this farrier come to the conclusion of this horse foundering?

Missy May 09-02-2013 03:59 PM

If she is having trouble, absolutely don't letter her graze on clover.

jewelerin74 09-02-2013 06:48 PM

I wasn't there when her feet were getting done. Something about a dip in her hoof or something like that. She had bad hooves from being neglected and not having them done in years so they were starting to curl in and had a bad high crack. When she was ridden she would limp unless she was on grass. Stands up all the time fine. Isn't on the ground unless she is rolling. Other then the limp she would show no signs of having problems. She would run around and have a blast all the time. The farrier said that from what we got her from she has improved very well. I've had her for a month or two now and it was the first time in years she has had her hooves done. And yes it was too long to wait but my mom found out she had MS right after we got them so we couldn't pay for them to get them done right away. But she is a rescue and i'm just happy she isn't worse and that we can fix it before it gets worse.
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mftowner06 09-02-2013 07:07 PM

You can give her a low starch grain - try to see if you can find Triple Crown in your area: Low Starch Horse Feed-Triple Crown's Low Starch Horse Feed Formula | Triple Crown Nutrition

Have your hay analyzed to make sure its low in starch, sugars.... keep her off grass, only let her graze at night but now that it's almost fall the sugars in the grass should be dropping off but graze her at night or get her a grazing muzzle.

I would have a vet out to help you through this also - and please don't give her bad hay -

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