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Spastic_Dove 05-06-2009 03:44 PM

What is the difference...?
 
What is the difference between a standing martingale and a running martingale and what are the uses for each? I never used one on any of the spazzy lesson ponies I "rode" so I haven't the slightest idea. They -look- similar to a tie down from what I see, but somehow I think I am missing the point.

KTSpeedhorse 05-06-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove (Post 302631)
What is the difference between a standing martingale and a running martingale and what are the uses for each? I never used one on any of the spazzy lesson ponies I "rode" so I haven't the slightest idea. They -look- similar to a tie down from what I see, but somehow I think I am missing the point.


I standard is basically a tie down. I used one on my old barrel horse. It is used to keep the horse from throwing their head.

A running is attached at the girth and then splits into 2 and attaches to the reins. When a horse throws it's head it puts pressure on the reins/bit. Some people use the running to teach to give to the bit. I haven't used one successfully though. They should not be used with any bit other than a D ring snaffle.

Hope this helps a little. I'm sure there will be others that can give more info.

wild_spot 05-06-2009 07:55 PM

Why shouldn't a running martingale be used with anything other than a D ring snaffle? I've seen them used successfully with any type of snaffle, a kimberwick, a few different types of gag's. Just look at a lot of Australian Showjumpers to see the multitude of bits they are used in conjunction with.

This:

http://www.uksaddlery.com/usrimage/k...e-standing.jpg

Is a standing martingale. Basically the english version of the tie-down. It goes from the girth, through a leather loop around the horses neck and attatches to the noseband. Works the same as a tiedown.

This:

http://www.uksaddlery.com/usrimage/k...martingale.jpg

Is a running martingale. Same as the standing, except it splits in two and the reins thread through the two rings. It has more give than the standing martingale, as it only comes into play when there is rein contact and the horse throws/raises it's head. The pressure can be relieved immediatly by releasing the contact. It can be adjusted to come into play earlier or later. It's used by a TON of showjumpers here, and a lot of pony club kids and people who ride arabs.

Spastic_Dove 05-06-2009 08:21 PM

Thank you!

wild_spot 05-06-2009 08:23 PM

No worries :]

StormyBlues 05-06-2009 09:51 PM

You can use a running martingale with any bit. Beezie Madden uses it with a 3 ring elevator, and Karren O'Conner uses one with a corcksrew or some other full cheek snaffle.

Miss Katie 05-07-2009 01:12 AM

Im wondering, could KT have meant that they shouldnt be used with any bit other than a d ring for concerns that the rings of the martingale may slip over the bit and get caught?? If this is her concern, ring stops on the reins fix the problem quickly, easily and cheaply.

KTSpeedhorse 05-07-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Katie (Post 302984)
Im wondering, could KT have meant that they shouldnt be used with any bit other than a d ring for concerns that the rings of the martingale may slip over the bit and get caught?? If this is her concern, ring stops on the reins fix the problem quickly, easily and cheaply.


LOL. My mistake. For some reason I had D ring in my head but you can certainly use the running with any snaffle. Sorry : ) And again I have never had to use a running martingale much and am not the most experienced with them. I know that I have been told and have read many times that they should not be used with anything other than a snaffle bit.


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