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princessfluffybritches 09-12-2013 01:42 AM

Venting about "smarter" gaited horse owners
 
I have to vent. I know you gaited people understand. I've had my TWH for 8 years, she's now 12. Four of those years were spent at a gaited non show barn. I took some lessons now and then but not frequently. I've ridden for 28 years, all styles. My BF is also a gaited horse owner. I know what a flat walk is and how it feels. I currently work on consistency. My horse does not have long toes. I ride in a Circle Y Barrel saddle, I find it easy to balance in . It fits the horse, and the saddle is placed behind her shoulder.

I meet this woman at a new barn. She's had her 4 year old TWH for 1 year. I watched her ride one day, and I said to her-nice rack! It was No nod and a pretty short stride 4 beat. She was offended that I called it a rack! She says it was a flat walk.
She sees me ride, and says that my horse needs a gaited saddle because I'm not sitting right. My saddle is too deep. It doesn't fit the horse. I put her saddle on my horse and it's so wide that there's no resistance to my hand under the saddle. She says even if it's too big, it fits my horse so much better. My horse felt choppy and pacey, but this lady says that my horse is finally flat walking (!!!!!????!!!!!).

In my saddle she nods nicely, her hind hooves come right under my seat. She flops her ears.

I could scream. This lady is clueless, but a know it all. Her instructor stands right next to her and agrees!!!! The instructor has many years of good English experience, and jumping. She says she works with gaited horses too, but now I guess I'm seeing that she may not know gaited horses very well.

I need some good come-backs to this lady's comments. Know what I mean?

Guilherme 09-12-2013 08:56 AM

The video camera is your friend, here.

Repeat the experiment you just described but video it. Then watch it with her and you will be able to point out the issues. With the ability to freeze frame and do slomo you'll demonstrate your points.

Will you convince her? I give you three chances in ten.

G.

Joe4d 09-12-2013 09:06 AM

why ? mind your own business and let her mind hers. Whats it matter ? SOunds like she could have made the exact same post about you.

Lockwood 09-12-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Guilherme (Post 3614010)
The video camera is your friend, here.

Repeat the experiment you just described but video it. Then watch it with her and you will be able to point out the issues. With the ability to freeze frame and do slomo you'll demonstrate your points.

Will you convince her? I give you three chances in ten.

G.

If you think it is worth your time to defend yourself, then this suggestion is a good one.

If you decide your time would be spent on better endeavors, then selective ignoring is your friend. :wink:

kstinson 09-12-2013 11:24 AM

There is always someone in every breed who will try to tell you what you should be doing, wearing, how your hands should be...etc, people always think they have advice to give (some of it is good and some of it isnt). You know your horse and how YOU want her to move for you best. Whether or not that person has valid points or not, if you didn't ask for help and you like the way your horse is moving and everything is working for you then it doesnt matter. Rather than be angry you can just say "thank-you for the opportunity of trying your saddle, I dont think it works for me though."

I can say that most people if they are serious about their TWH and are working on a gait would be offended with 'nice rack' unless that was what they are going for (I made the mistake of saying that to my mother in law once...did I get a glare lol) but thats every breed -I imagine if you said 'nice jog" to someone on a trotting horse when they were going to an extended trot unbeknownst to you -you'd get the same reaction. Such is life.

If you are really worried about it like G says, get a camera out and tape your horse moving under both saddles. Sometimes what we think we know looks very different when youre watching it rather than doing it. I have taped myself plenty of times and been surprised (both good and bad haha) with what I have seen.

Anyways, just let it roll off your back and enjoy your horse. Thats why you bought one anyways right? :)

Lockwood 09-12-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kstinson (Post 3615042)
I can say that most people if they are serious about their TWH and are working on a gait would be offended with 'nice rack' unless that was what they are going for (I made the mistake of saying that to my mother in law once...did I get a glare lol) but thats every breed -I imagine if you said 'nice jog" to someone on a trotting horse when they were going to an extended trot unbeknownst to you -you'd get the same reaction. Such is life.

That's a good point. I would be miffed if someone said that to me as I have a RMH and they Singlefoot.
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Jolly Badger 09-12-2013 12:09 PM

It happens a lot in the horse world.

Unless you see someone or their horse in immediate danger. . .or if someone is doing something to their horse that might be causing a training or health issue. . .or unless that person is actively seeking your advice. . .it's usually best to MYOB.

Unsolicited advice may be well-intentioned. . .but it can also come off as being insulting and acting like a know-it-all to the other person even if you're "right."

JMHO

princessfluffybritches 09-12-2013 12:52 PM

Well since I had just met her, I really did mean it as a compliment. I didn't know her much at the time. I see now that she's inexperienced. She said my seat is wrong because I am not sitting in a chair seat. I see that she thinks it's all about how high the horse lifts it's front legs, not the reach of the back legs. Since I've had a dressage background, I found her saddle put my seat too far back. My saddle keeps my legs heel in line with my shoulder and hip. I am not a perfect rider but I know what my faults are.

I would never open my mouth and correct anyone. She needs to stop criticizing me for things she has no experience with. Now that I've vented , I'm ready to let it roll off my back. If she continues, I will just have to say that we must have different schools of thought, and my horse gaits just fine. I'm going away for 2 weeks, but I'll get that video and post it.

Under the saddle thread here, it seems most people ride in saddles that are not made for gaited horses but rather ride in what fits. I've always learned that the saddle needs to fit her and me, no matter what the type of saddle. I've been thru 8 saddles finding the right fit. The gaited ones were either perched and rocked, or too big for her. The Tucker fit her like a glove until she muscled up and tipped it back. Or they fit her but made me sit too far back on her spine. The only other one that fits her is an Abetta regular tree. Also fit like a glove and I still have it. I will get a video and you all can critique my riding. I have faults, but I feel I know what they are , and strive to correct them.

Jolly, you are absolutely right to MYOB

womack29 09-12-2013 11:09 PM

She needs to stop criticizing you. Most people that are like that are insecure and you said she wears inexperienced so my guess she is insecure. I have a neighbor that is scared to death of horses but had the nerve to tell me I was abusive because I ride her when it was 90 degrees. I have a walker I use for trail and love the ride. I do not clam to be an expert on her gAits I just know what feels good. I ride a tucker endurance trail saddle that fits us both very well.

princessfluffybritches 09-13-2013 12:55 AM

I think you're right about the insecurity. The other lady I'm friendly with there says she does that to everyone, and when she said something to her daughter, she told her to knock it off.

I guess people still surprise me. If I only owned my first gaited horse a year, and met someone who ridden gaited horses for a few years, I'd be looking to learn something!

I've never met gaited horse owners that did not obsess over their saddle fitting. I tried 8 saddles before this one, and this one fit. No doubt about it. Maybe gaited horses are harder to fit. Who knows?


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