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Beau Baby 05-11-2009 11:27 PM

Flash Nosebands
 
Alright i'm thinking about getting a flash noseband for both my horses and i was wondering if it was a good idea. So with the one horse he has a speed problem. He is always wanting to go fast and i'm just not sure what to do. I have a snaffle on him and i know a harsher bit isn't going to solve the problem. If i keep his mouth closed can i get more control.

The other is a green broke{just barely} horse that always chews. The chewing is alrigth for the most part its that he flips his tongue over the bit. I'm thinkign if i keep his mouth closed it'l stop that. Help!

MyBoyPuck 05-11-2009 11:37 PM

I don't think you'd be addressing the source of the problem. Speed comes from the hind end. Instead of looking at it as a bit or bridle issue, maybe try getting him to listen to you better? I personally would disengage this horse's hind end with a one rein stop EVERY time he tries to speed up until he gets the idea that this party is over. He can have his tongue anywhere he wants. If his but isn't in straight line with his shoulders, he isn't going anywhere.

Spyder 05-11-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beau Baby (Post 305415)
The other is a green broke{just barely} horse that always chews. The chewing is alrigth for the most part its that he flips his tongue over the bit. I'm thinkign if i keep his mouth closed it'l stop that. Help!


The flash will help with this horse but will probably do nothing for the other one.

smrobs 05-12-2009 03:24 AM

I agree with spyder, I don't think it would necessarily help with the horse that is chargy. As for the green horse, first, I would make sure that the bit is fitted properly in his mouth, that can stop a lot of issues. Though I am a western rider and am unsure of the real purpose of the flash noseband, there are too many times that I see it being used to clamp a horses mouth shut to mask a training or behavioral problem. To me, it is kinda like taping an asprin to a broken arm. The main problem should be fixed first and if more tack is needed, it HAS to be used properly.

StormyBlues 05-12-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck (Post 305419)
He can have his tongue anywhere he wants.

Acctaully it is VERY unsafe for both horse and rider for the horse to have his tungue over the bit

My Beau 05-12-2009 06:43 PM

The flash might be able to help the horse who just wants to go fast to a degree. And that's only if he just grabs the bit and goes. The flash might prevent that. It helps with my horse who will grab the bit and go if the situation presents itself.

It's trail and error, if you use it and it doesn't work, get rid of it. But, you should re-school the horse also so you're not dependant on the flash. Now, my horse's only goes on at shows.

Beau Baby 05-12-2009 08:19 PM

Alright. Thnx for the advice guys. I'm gonna look into getting one for the green broke horse, becasue he does flip his tongue over the bit and that is bad. The bit does fit properly i know that.

With the speedster i guess i'll jsut work on slowing him down and making him think more.

CJ82Sky 05-12-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beau Baby (Post 305901)
Alright. Thnx for the advice guys. I'm gonna look into getting one for the green broke horse, becasue he does flip his tongue over the bit and that is bad. The bit does fit properly i know that.

With the speedster i guess i'll jsut work on slowing him down and making him think more.

lots of transitions trot walk trot walk trot walk where the focus is on a smooth transition with the hind end engaged. if the horse is rushing chances are he's not accepting the bit and moving back to front, but rather evading and pulling instead. you want the horse to reach for the bit and rather than tie his mouth shut, you're better working on transitions. another exercises that works are circles with trot poles - just make sure you have the distances right and don't use too MANY trot poles. the circles coupled with the trot poles when placed properly will help the horse focus on where his feet are and set the rhythm and tempo of the pace. to build up to this, first start with trot poles (4 poles) on a straight line. eventually work towards making them on a bending line or through a corner. as the horse gets used to it, you can bend them to the arc of the circle and actually vary your pace by circling closer in for a slower trot and farther out to ask the horse to reach out more over the poles.

it's a next step exercise for the spiral in spiral out that works on getting the horse balanced and moving off the leg (if you don't know that one, i or someone in here can explain). good luck!

as for the horse with the tongue over the bit, the flash may help. another option is a rubber tongue depressor that attaches to a simple snaffle. some horses hate it and some horses love it and chew on it and it keeps them from getting their tongue over the bit. just food for thought.

Beau Baby 05-12-2009 10:00 PM

We got a ruybber tongue depressor once but never firgured out how to put it on. I'm still unsure of how.


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