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Clydesdales 09-16-2013 05:24 PM

My horse rushes his jumps
 
Whenever I jump my 16 yr old tb he throws his head up and sorta trots on the spot then takes off for the jump and jumps to soon.
Any ways to calm him ? :(:wink:

MyBoyPuck 09-16-2013 09:45 PM

Need more info. How much experience does this horse have jumping? What are you doing on approach? Have you jumped grids or just single fences? Can you lengthen/shorten his canter stride on the flat? How much jumping experience do you have? Are you working with a trainer?

Clydesdales 09-17-2013 05:12 AM

I get him to trot then depending on the jump i will get him to canter, when I get about 2 or 3 strides before the jump he throws his head up really high and does a half trot half canter and jumps to early and barely clears the jump.
He has done show jumping, cross country , trail riding for almost all of his life.
I do jumps grids and single fences.
On the approach I'm usually trying to slow him down a bit so he can get an extra stride in.
I can shorten his stride but having trouble lengthening it.
I've had almost 5 or 6 years jumping experience but I've never had trainer but have had lessons given to me by my aunty.
And I can't afford a trainer.

gssw5 09-17-2013 07:54 AM

I don't know a lot about jumping but I know about barrel racing and horses rushing barrels, dropping shoulders and running up fences at break neck speeds. Your horse is basically flipping you off and making his own decision, taking control away from you. This happens to a lot of horses in any discipline when they think they know what to do they anticipate. You have to take back control of his feet. I don't think you have a jumping problem you have a respect and stiffness problem.

How is he when you lunge him over the jumps is he still rushing or does he rate himself better? If he is rushing I would keep lunging him over the jump until he relaxes, put down ground poles to adjust his stride before the jump. If your on the ground and he trips over himself its no big deal because your not having to balance on him while he figures it out. I would also go to flat work when riding and work on lots of lateral and vertical flexion and get him soft and responsive to your body and the bit. If he is sticking his nose out he avoiding the bit and taking control away from you, indicating stiffness.

On the barrels we fix this sort of problem by doing the opposite of what the horse wants to do. If the horse is anticipating turning left we turn him right, and keep going until they go straight until told otherwise. Maybe you can set up low jumps when he goes to rush turn away from the jump, circle right in front of it when he relaxes go at the jump again, if he rushes again turn the other way and do some circles, take the control away from him. That is where the lateral flexion and giving to the bit need to be good so when you pick up one rein he will circle. You will not be teaching him to avoid the jump you will be teaching him to listen to his rider, and go the way you tell him to. Just like with our barrel horses we are not teaching them to turn away from the barrel we are teaching them to turn when and where we tell them to .

Be safe.

Corporal 09-17-2013 09:58 AM

He has been frightened while jumping. He probably was rushed early on bc someone saw some jumping talent, and that is why he is rushing fences.
You need to go back to flat-work for several months--NO JUMPING!--and establish control. It isn't the talent to jump that makes a good Hunter or Jumper. It is also the discipline that comes from strength and obedience that also gives the horse the confidence he needs to throw him and the rider over an obstacle.
I would suggest a Dressage trainer for you both.

Clydesdales 09-17-2013 05:22 PM

Thank you gssw5 and Corporal both your answers are very good and I will try both yes Corporal my aunty thinks the same thing about being rushed a jumps.


gssw5 when I lunge him over jumps he perfect so I might be the problem do you think a running martingale would help.

When I jump logs he perfect and low fences.

When my sister rides him I don't notice it as much and she jumps over high fences.

Corporal I can't afford a trainer if I was competing I would thnk about it but I only ride on the farm.

gssw5 09-17-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clydesdales (Post 3657394)
Thank you gssw5 and Corporal both your answers are very good and I will try both yes Corporal my aunty thinks the same thing about being rushed a jumps.


gssw5 when I lunge him over jumps he perfect so I might be the problem do you think a running martingale would help.

When I jump logs he perfect and low fences.

When my sister rides him I don't notice it as much and she jumps over high fences.

Corporal I can't afford a trainer if I was competing I would thnk about it but I only ride on the farm.

If the horse is stiff and avoiding the bit a running martingale is not going to solve the problem it's like putting a band-aid on a bleeding artery. You need to fix the problem. Go back to lots of flat work and get your balance and timing on the flat work. Use ground poles at a trot and lope to help you get your timing. If he is better with your sister then watch her and see what she is doing different, maybe her seat is better and hands more quiet. Without a trainer and eyes watching you to tell you how to fix yourself it's going to be challenging to fix the problem.

Maybe if you posted a video on here someone could tell you exactly what is going wrong.

Clydesdales 09-17-2013 08:32 PM

Okay thankyou very much gssw5 and I will get my sister to watch me
and i will try and upload a video

Ninamebo 09-18-2013 11:01 AM

The fact that he is fine going over with no rider and with your sis leads me to believe it's something you're doing leading up that you may not realize. Are you tensing your muscles? Looking at the jump or past it? Giving straightforward half halt cues? Hand and seat placement? Post a vid and everyone will be more than happy to help you out! It's tough trying to decipher the problem without a visual on it though. Good luck!

angelbkm212 09-18-2013 07:38 PM

my thoroughbred mare used to do exactly the same thing. Go back to lower jumps (50-60cm) and arrange 3 cavaletti in front of the jump, one trot stride apart. This worked really well for my mare as she had to slow down and watch what she was doing over the cavaletti. Once your horse is going well with that, take away one cavaletti, and once he's used to that, take the next one. When you feel your horse wont rush the jump, take the last one away as well. Also work on cantering into the low jump with one cavaletti two strides on front of the jump. Try lunging the horse over the cavaletti and jump and watch how he jumps from the ground


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