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kitten_Val 09-19-2013 07:32 AM

Back on Track hock boots
 
Anyone tried those? Do they work?

DuffyDuck 09-19-2013 07:50 AM

Are you looking at the magnetic type?
A friend of mine hand front and back (not hock) for her arthritic haffy. She used to swear by them, and said between that, diet change (supplements, but can't remember what) and equine massage she has had more rides (and the horse jumps in the school and trail) than she had hoped for.

CLaPorte432 09-19-2013 07:59 AM

I have them. Yes they absolutely do work.
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kitten_Val 09-19-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432 (Post 3672457)
I have them. Yes they absolutely do work.
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Sorry for the dumb ? , but... :) How do you use them? Put on for riding only? Or 24/7?

DD, I don't know. I believe Back on Track only has one sort. What kind of massage?

My qh was diagnosed with arthritis in hocks yesterday. We are trying IV now (and will start supplement from my vet next week). I'm so upset that I want to cry (as she is one of the smartest horses I've ever rode).... (and she's only 9 yo, and has never been in hard work or showing :( )

DuffyDuck 09-19-2013 08:13 AM

The horse wore them over night three times a week, or longer when she was bad. I don't know much more than that..

They have normal boots, I looked in to them for Duffy as she kept opening her hocks (Turned out ass of a BM was taking the bedding out and putting it in his horse's stables!)

Most horses have some sort of arthritis. Duffy had it from being so big and pigeon toed. So long as you take measurements to make them comfortable, they can lead a normal life. Supplements, magnetic boots, longer warm up and cool down, injections (later resort IMO) etc can help.

I think she used homeopathic stuff too. I did for me 21YO school master. He had very stiff hind legs, especially in winter. He was ridden or lunged EVERY day. Not hard, but he had to move or he would get worse. He had a very hard dressage career, and is still going at 23.

I used Nux Vomica and Rhux Tox. Will find out the long names. I think the Nux Vom was more for his horrid attitude and 'thank yous' with his teeth though!

DuffyDuck 09-19-2013 08:17 AM

https://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Rhus-t

Rhus Tox, not Rhux Tox, apologies!

The Germans LOVE their homeopathic remedies. I found it helped a lot. It takes a couple of weeks, but I will try and remember dosage etc.

And equine massage..http://www.equissage-europe.co.uk/

We had a woman do it out here, but I am sure it started off in the US

kitten_Val 09-19-2013 08:41 AM

Thanks a bunch, DD!

BTW, how long did it take to warm up/cool down (I assume walk only, right? I do 10 mins at the moment for both of them)? And did you do trot AND canter while in "normal work"?

P.S. Yes, we have equine massage specialists here, but I've never tried that. Gonna ask on my local forum.

CLaPorte432 09-19-2013 08:45 AM

Im sorry to hear that KV. I have a 6 year old that has arthritis in her left hock. Been there for a year now. So I understand. :-(

As far as BOT wraps here's information taken from a website regarding application...
Back on Track products should be introduced gradually. They should only be applied for a total period of 4 hours per day for the first 2 to 3 days. After that, it is recommended to keep them on overnight. The longer they are left on, the better the results.**Please note that physical responses can be variable. Ideally, you will notice a reduction of stiffness, muscle pain or sore joints within a few hours or days. Quite often though, you will need to persevere for 10 days to 20 days, particularly with established long-term injuries.

Back on Track horse products are most commonly used over night. If problems persist, extra benefit can be derived from using them during the horseís active daylight hours, by taking advantage of the additional body heat generated by physical motion.*****

It is generally recommended not to use liniments with Back on Track products, but if you donít achieve the desired result, you can choose to try a mild liniment or alcohol with them. Be aware that any liniment gets stronger if used in conjunction with these products, so please use your own judgement.

As symptoms such as pain and swelling may diminish or vanish completely, we recommend that you occasionally (say every 3 to 4 weeks) suspend the use of the products for 5 to 7 days. This will permit observation of the problem area to see if any underlying problem prevails that may require veterinary attention.

When i first started using them, I left them on for 3 hours a day for 5 days. Then I increased the time. Eventually I went to overnight therapy. I even pasture my horses, and have left it on in the pasture with no problems. The wrap stays where you put it. Very good quality product.

Now wheI use them, because of the supplements, i use them before a show, and on the trailer ride home/overnight. And that's it.

Keep in mind when you first start using them, your horse may be tender in that area. So be careful. The increased blood flow can make the area..."hyper-sensitive" for awhile.

Rumor gets Corti-Flex with Hyluronic Acid (HA) That stuff is amazing. I highly recommend it. The reviews that it gets are incredible. Look for it on horse.com and read reviews. My mare also gets pure MSM, and i give SmartPak Senior (Just until my supply is gone) As i feel the Corti-Flex HA is the most effective.

Rumor also gets Pentosan IM injection every 3 weeks to help reduce/keep inflammation in the hock away. (Especially the cold months) It rebuilds the affected tissues and rebuilds the joint fluid. Its similar to Adequan IM, But way way cheaper. And more effective IMPO. Adequan doesnt do anything for inflammation. Pentosan does.

also, Pentosan is not a hock injection. I'm not going there unless absolutely needed. It goes in the muscle (anywhere on body) Safe to give, haven't had any side effects. I give the shot myself every 3 Weeks.
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DuffyDuck 09-19-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kitten_Val (Post 3672633)
Thanks a bunch, DD!

BTW, how long did it take to warm up/cool down (I assume walk only, right? I do 10 mins at the moment for both of them)? And did you do trot AND canter while in "normal work"?

P.S. Yes, we have equine massage specialists here, but I've never tried that. Gonna ask on my local forum.


I used to do a good ten minutes of walk and keep the loops big.. 20m circles, rein changes through the whole school etc. Then my initial trot would be a slower working trot on a longer rein. It had to be a day by day thing, and you will feel this. Even if Doey felt better, I would keep him going for a bit longer to make sure. Trot and canter I worked normally, but not intense work every day. He was doing canter half pass, flying change, then canter half pass back to the wall, collected work and extended work no problems.

And the cool down was the same, finish trotting on a longer rein to stretch, slow it down and then a really, really good walk off.

DuffyDuck 09-19-2013 09:31 AM

Trying to find some pictures of the boy so you can see that he still worked and looked good.. Whip was because I slouched and the big mark on my head is after I split my head open drunk,http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...e/doeywhip.jpg


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