Here is Java at a jog, trot and lope.
We've both had two years off (due to me moving) but I've owned him for the past 10 of his 11 years.
The two of us have been back at riding for a month now. I filmed a trot for all of you english riders ;) haha, we rarely trot - it's always a jog.
So here are the videos. I apologize that they aren't the best quality, but once again it was raining! Let me know what you think we should be working on. Thanks!
Java at the Jog on Vimeo
Java at the lope on Vimeo
Java at the trot on Vimeo
I assume the video is the result of this thread ?
This horse is very much western pleasure training ingrained and even the trot is not what would be wanted in an English show.
Compare to this video. The video below is of a horse trotting and the trot on this horse is nothing really exceptional but it is using its hind end more and not using the front legs to pull itself along.
Here is a nice canter,not exceptional but if you compare you can see if you wanted to go into dressage you have a lot more work to do.
Spyder - no, this isn't in response to that thread. When I DO get that video (one day when it isn't raining and I have more time to ride) I'll post that up there.
He can move more - but that wasn't what I was asking for in any of the video. I wanted this to be viewed as western pleasure. I posted the trot video just so that english riders who aren't familiar with a western jog could have a comparison.
I tried to ETA but it wouldn't let me, so here is more:
ETA: I think there lies a confusion as well. I do not want to compete in dressage. I simply wanted other things to mess around with so that he doesn't get bored doing rail work (and neither do I! Haha.) I know for a fact that Java will never be able to move like a dressage horse. He simply isn't built for that line of work (he's born and bred western pleasure, attitude and all). However, I thought it would be good for the both of us to practice different things in dressage. I'll see if I can drag my husband out tomorrow if it doesn't rain again (wonderful North Carolina) and film me messing around a bit with dressage. I'll post in the 'To possibly do dressage' thread with that one, though.
I think you need to work on you're posting. Other then that you're horse and you are doing really good! I would practice side passing and putting rails down that he has to pick his feet up. Also opening and closing gates, going over bridges, and water.
He can side pass and will go over poles, too. Pivot on haunches and forehand, ground-tie, anything asked for in a trail or horsemanship class. He can swim through water and we open and close the gate every day going in and out of the arena. But thanks for the suggestions!
We used to take pretty much any class we entered three or four years ago (pleasure, horsemanship, trail, showmanship) and I basically wanted feedback to see if he still had it. He REALLY needs to muscle up yet though, like 100 pounds worth.
for having 2 years off and only been back riding for a month you guys look darn good!
Im an english rider so I'm not going to comment on his gaits (they are too slow for my likings,) but nothing jumped out.
What are your plans for him this year?
They're slow, but they're SO nice to ride. I think that's why I enjoy bareback so much.
This year we're working on dressage. I'd like to lift him up a bit, plus I think it would be good to get him back to his muscled-ness. I should scan in photos of what he used to look like.
He does look very comfortable. You dont seem to move anywhere in the saddle!
Something about the way he moved in the trot video jumped at me; has he ever had an injury to his right hind leg\hip? It almost seems like he favors that side a bit...
At any rate, just because he's 'pleasure' bred, DOES NOT mean he can't do dressage, at all! You can actually improve how well he moves in your western events by teaching him dressage movements, even simpler ones like a shoulder in, shoulder fore, or how to lengthen his strides. Everything about dressage is about helping a horse learn how to use his body MOST effectively; and if you can help him learn that, you will do even better in your other events.
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