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Solon 06-08-2009 03:14 PM

Medieval horses/tack/gaming... TONS of pictures
 
This is from the fashion thread since I mentioned my medieval stuff.

As far as what warhorses were active during the middle ages it's not the big drafts like the one I have in the following pictures. They were smaller but stocky enough to carry all the armor the horse had to wear as well as the Knight's. They were known as Destriers.

The Destrier was a highly trained warhorse. They were as much a warrior as the Knight himself. The drafts of today were really the pulling horses even back in the Dark/Middle ages. I get a lot of crap for riding a draft horse in the medieval society because some people are what we call "period nazi's" and believe you must recreate to the exact specifications.

Palfries were the riding horses most of the nobles would have these horses. Coursers were the cavalry horses. Very fast, very agile. Rouncies were the all purpose stock horses. Pulled wagons, peasants rode them, they are what we call grade horses today.

And remember, breeding wasn't really known back then like it is now. They bred for the work the horse needed to do but for someone to try for TB's or QH's like today, they just didn't do that back then.

Along with the horses there were definitely 'warhounds' used. They could provide excellent killing blows from below and the enemy often didn't expect them. They were trained to go for throat, groin, legs - anything to bring the enemy down so they kill them.

I belong to an organization known as the SCA - Society for Creative Anachronism. It is a world-wide organization. Basically you pick a time prior to 1650 A.D. and you recreate it fully. From the clothing to the camping to the cooking to the writing to everything in between.

My chosen time period is 145 A.D., Greek/Roman. So my armor is in the Greek/Roman style. I do swordfighting. We use rattan swords because while we do hit each other you don't want to actually get killed so no sharp edges. And these guys hit hard!

There are tournmanets and wars. Tournaments are individual fighting. Each part of the world is divided up into Kingdoms and those Kingdoms are divided up into Principalities, Baronies and Shires. There is a King and Queen of each Kingdom and a Crown Tournament is held 2-3 times a year to fight for the Crown. The winner of the Crown Tournment becomes King/Queen and rules for a 3-6 month period.

The medieval horse part of the organization is the same way. You recreate your horse armor/barding in the fashion of the time period that you choose. Because I'm early period, Solon doesn't have anything in the way of armor or barding. Although I have toyed with the idea of making a four horned Roman saddle.

Our medieval games included the Rings (where you ride straight down a line and pick up the Rings with your lance that are hanging from "T" piec of wood, there is the Quintan which you take your lance and slam it into a a wood piece and however many times it spins around determines the winner (only you don't want to get hit in the back of the head with the sandbag as you go by!), there is the game of Heads where you do a pole bending pattern and knock the heads off the pole with your sword.

There are other games but these are the main ones.

Here are some pictures that kind of show what I'm talking about (captions above the pictures):

This is my full fighting kit. I do have a new helm which I will show below:

http://x48.xanga.com/e7e8615a34c3011039948/m5511747.jpg


This is my new helm - it's super heavy but very protective. I had my armorer design two horses in the grill facing away from each other:

http://xa2.xanga.com/21c83534d4c3814...m105917536.jpg


This is a nasty bruise I received after a sword practice and that went through my leather armor and padding underneath! You can see the outline of the sword blade from top to bottom.

http://xe9.xanga.com/331a60ead063378.../s53210333.jpg


Here is a picture of one of our King's. He's been King more than once. The white belt denotes that he is a Knight.

http://xe0.xanga.com/2678052b4550833028141/m6882442.jpg


The medieval games. Solon was just a baby at this event (just turned 4 and I had only started riding him a couple of month before the event so we did the games only at the walk).

The Quintain - on the other side other wood shield is the sandbag and if you don't get past it fast enough while going at the trot/canter it can knock you in the back of the head.

http://x7f.xanga.com/026874e1c333313432867/m9661679.jpg


The Rings - not so easy to do even at the walk!

http://xf9.xanga.com/486d21731913310.../m73943372.jpg


The Heads - basically a pole bending pattern that you knock the heads off with the sword as you go by.

http://x73.xanga.com/6a0b6701d713242.../m29157519.jpg


Sadly, Solon grew out of the horse trailer I had so he retired as medieval warhorse.

We don't do 'real' jousting due to insurance issues. They do what is called boffer jousting which in my opinion is a joke. It's a styrofoam lance.

If you are interested in learning more about the SCA and how to find a group next to you here is the link.

Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc.

This link will show you how to find your local group:

SCA, Inc. | SCA Geography

MIEventer 06-08-2009 04:36 PM

OH MY GOODNESS!! SOOOO COOL SOLON!!!

I am so happy you decided to share your passion, I had no clue!!! That is so neat!!!!

I find it fascinating to learn about the horses! Do you have pictures at all of what each indavidual "breed" looked like?
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I get a lot of crap for riding a draft horse in the medieval society because some people are what we call "period nazi's" and believe you must recreate to the exact specifications
Ah - I can totally understand where you are coming from here. Hubby and I have 2 dear friends who are married and are very, very involved with Civil War Reinacting - they talk all the time about the "nazi's" at their gatherings towards people who don't follow "historical specifications"

Beverly - the wife - she makes time period dresses for woman and goes to many conferences about the time period clothing so that she can remain up to date on how the dresses must be made to follow the historical specifications.

I think - that people should just be happy that others are involved in sharing the love and passion for the certain historical time periods. Who cares if you are on a Draft - at least you are there loving and sharing this passion.

So - does the "king" ride around on a Palfrie?

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There are tournmanets and wars. Tournaments are individual fighting. Each part of the world is divided up into Kingdoms and those Kingdoms are divided up into Principalities, Baronies and Shires. There is a King and Queen of each Kingdom and a Crown Tournament is held 2-3 times a year to fight for the Crown. The winner of the Crown Tournment becomes King/Queen and rules for a 3-6 month period.

That sounds like SO MUCH FUN!!!! HA - reminds me of the movie I just watched "Roll Models" Did you see that?

Sixxofdiamonds 06-08-2009 04:53 PM

MIEventer! It reminds me of Role Models, too!

Solon - that is awesome. And I like that you ride a draft, because he's a beaut.

Solon 06-08-2009 04:58 PM

Some of the Knights do ride in the medieval games. Most of them ride what would be considered palfries - some do ride draft horses though. I do have some pictures of what the horses looked like on some ancient tombstones and tapestries.

Here is one I really like from an early period tombstone. Reminds me of Solon. I'll find some of the others and post them later. I haven't seen Role Models so I'll have to check it out!

http://x99.xanga.com/108b2a663633336.../m25128806.jpg

Another early period horse:

http://x11.xanga.com/1f8b573b7363236.../m25226872.jpg


These are some of the Middle Ages Destriers. Notice the dapple grey?

http://x35.xanga.com/f6fa82660753577.../m52329369.jpg


I'll find some of my others and post them. Super cool. Especially the ones they are finding on ancient Greek/Roman tombs that were dedicated to both the soldier and the horse.

Solon 06-08-2009 05:02 PM

This website was made by a lady in our Barony. It will show you all the different barding used as well as the groups that didn't use them. Very informative and lots of great pictures:

History of Horse Bards and Tack

MIEventer 06-08-2009 05:16 PM

Love Dapply Greys.

They look araby - or TBish to me??

Solon 06-08-2009 05:25 PM

Arabians were a big blood line back then. The Caspian horse was a pretty big breed way back then as well.

ETA: I believe TB's are relatively new historically. Somewhere around the late 1600's early 1700's in England? I think I remembered that correctly.

The other breeds such as Friesians were big during the Middle Ages. The Iberian horse and other Spanish blood horses were also important in the Middle Ages.

MIEventer 06-08-2009 07:30 PM

OOOH! SEE! I find this so fascinating!!!!

What was the Freisan used for? Being a draft - probobly a commoner's horse?

Solon 06-08-2009 08:05 PM

Friesians were used as chargers and the nobility had access to them.

I remember the first Friesian I ever saw was Goliath from Ladyhawke. One of my most fave movies!

7Ponies 06-08-2009 08:22 PM

Very nice Solon. Looks like you have a lot of fun with it.

I have friends that do the renaissance festivals all the time. They dress up in period costumes, but only for show. They don't do any of the role playing or games associated with it.


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