what do you guys think of the parelli games?
well i started to ask about this in one of my other posts, but i decided to just start a whole post just on this! :) so what do u guys think of the parelli games? im kinda considering starting them...my horse is already trained and stuff but i heard it REALLY pays off (always room for improvement) and REALLY strengthens the bond between you and your horse. if any of u guys no anyone that has had a successful outcome from this or u personally have plz say so...by the way i was just wondering about the porcupine game...if u train your horse to move away that easily from your touch wouldnt they start to move even if u started petting them or something? i mean im sure they dont or else ppl wouldnt use it but do u no how that works? the other thing is that i have no idea where i can do this b/c the barn im at has a round pen and arena that is ALWAYS occupied, pastures with other horses and plus...call me stupid but most ppl at my barn do not beleve in this...i no i shouldnt care but its annoying when i get those "Looks" so if u guys have any advice plz post! thank u so much!!! :)
I think they're good for beginner horses and riders and are the basics of horsemanship (moving away from pressure, etc). I don't think they are any better than "normal" horsemanship though.
Spirithorse can help you out
The friendly game is awesome! It makes your horse much more bomb-proof! Today my friend was paying with her crop as we were sitting on out horses in the ring. It got a little too close to Spirit and he just sat there. Then she tried touching him with it on his forehead, poll, muzzle and he just stood and stared off into the distance. When she tried that with her horse, Dancer freaked out.
Idk ahout the porcupine game, but I'll just give Spirit a cue when I want to move his backend or front end instead of touching him. I snap twice because I'm afraid that if I teach him to move to my every touch, then if I'm patting him, he might get confused and move away (I really don't know if that's the cause, but I give him a cue anyway)
You could ask the people if you could use it when they're done. You could do the games in the center on the lungeline of the arena. If my friends think it's stupid, I just tell them that I read the games in a book (I did) and that it's supposed to help you communicate better with your horse.
I know those "looks " that you are talking about lol , it used to bother me but not anymore...I have alot of fun with the games and my horse responds to me so much better , I am only working online right now level 1- 2 ground skills with some liberty ....Yes I think Spirit Horse def is on her game...she has done a lot with her horse using Parelli....but Pat does say "If your green , your growing, if you're ripe, you're rotten"
I've been into Parelli for years and am playing in Level 3 right now. It's amazing! Parelli can take you from very beginner to very advanced. And believe it or not, you CAN show and be successful in the show world and do Parelli at the same time ;) Some people don't believe that, but I have a lot of examples I could point out.
Anyway, I think you should go for it! You and your horse will love and benefit from it. As to answer your question about the porcupine game, no, your horse won't move if you simply pet him. When you teach the porcupine game, you always give the horse a warning look first and your body language is intense. When you simply pet your horse, your energy is down and very soft, so that alone will be all the difference your horse needs to tell whether he should move or not. When you come out of your relaxed position that's when he should pay attention and figure out what you want.
I, too, know the "looks" people give others when doing Parelli. It's ridiculous really. I mean, don't they have anything better to do? I just ignore it. I don't need to prove anything to anybody. The proof is in the pudding, after all, and I don't speak a word about Parelli, I simply let my actions and my horse's behavior tell the story. THAT'S how you be a good example, not by trying to shove things down people's throats. I care about what my horse thinks of me, not what others think of me.
i think i definitely will go for it...i just dont know when b/c i dont want to start it and then have to stop b/c lack of time. i would think these should be done as often as possible. and i was also wondering (im pretty sure it will but im just making sure) so even tho both me and my horse r pretty trained and stuff this will still make a huge diff right? the parts of it im really hoping for is to gain more trust respect and to just strengthen our bond! :) plz give more input if u guys have advice! thx!
another thing i would like to ask is i have been hearing about "parelli packs" is this something i HAVE to have to do his methods? and wut is a good place to do this? there is a good place behind one of my trainers barn but it isnt enclosed or anything-its just an open field type thing. and wut do i need, i would think just the basics like a halter leadrope and a "scary" bag for the friendy game...if u guys have any tips plz fill me in, im just starting to look into this
My only advice would be to keep an open mind. The only real issue I have with Parelli is the absolutely outrageous cost of everything. I think it's sad that normal people without a lot of money think they can't do it, but they CAN. Research as much info as you can, and just use a lot of common sense when you're substituting certain props like a carrot stick or a Parelli rope halter if you can't afford to buy one. I made an immense amount of progress doing groundwork with my mare such as getting her to follow me at any gait, stopping and backing up with just my body movement, over jumps and tarps, etc. plus riding her with just a piece of twine looped around her neck. And I accomplished it all just by reading a bunch of different stuff on different types of natural horsemanship and kind of forming my own "program".
yeah i was just thinking and since at the moment i dont have anywhere to really do these things i may just use some of the games (particularly the porcupine game) and do my own little thing. i mean im still doing groundwork and stuff, still spending quality time with my horse, and still accomplishing stuff...and then later when i have a place to do this i can always some back to this-like u just said i can create my own little "program" im not sure yet but in the mean time im going to work on some stuff wth my horse like going through water moving off of my pressure like the porcupine game, and just whatever i think needs to b worked on. think this is a good idea? plz tell me wut u think! thx! :)
*by the way sry for saying "stuff" so much...i couldnt think of a better word! lol! :)
You don't need any special place to do the games. You can do them in a pasture if that's all you have available.
The basics you would need for Level 1 is the halter, 12 ft. lead and the carrot stick and string. You could go buy a cheap rope halter from a tack store, but I guarentee you that you won't get as good results. Pat chose the materials he uses FOR A REASON and you are paying for quality and the stuff lasts you for YEARS. However, I'm fortunate enough to know a guy who makes halters, ropes and reins out of the same exact material Parelli uses, and I pay half the cost. If you PM me I could give you his phone number if you are interested in buying some stuff.
If you are simply wanting to do the 7 games and go no further, then getting the 7 Games DVD from the Success Series is a good way to go. If you are really wanting to understand Parelli and really want to know, inside and out, the theory behind the program then getting the Level 1 pack off Ebay is the best way to go.
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