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tseluyu dylan 11-27-2013 02:00 AM

What do you feed your horse in Oregon?
 
Was trying to work out a diet plan for my gelding. He is a California horse but is in Oregon while I am up at school. Is there a grain type or supplement suggestion that anyone recommends or has been successful with?

He is on MSM, Triple Crown 30% (which seems to be too much protein, considering his energy levels are on the rise), some herbal powders for ulcers, and source FM for hooves.

Is this a good basic diet? When I feed grain I feed minimum amounts. I am not a fan of grains but want him to be getting all of his vitamins and minerals.

Please help me out if you are knowledgeable in the horse nutrition world. :D

verona1016 11-27-2013 02:42 AM

That's pretty close to what I feed my horse and I'm very happy with how he does on it. Mine is a 15hh, 1000 lb easy keeper in light to moderate work and he gets 1 lb TC30, 1 lb alfalfa pellets, MSM, Vit E + selenium, and about 1/4 cup flax seeds daily, along with 20 lbs of local grass hay. Our hay has nearly zero selenium, hence the additional supplement.
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SorrelHorse 11-27-2013 03:28 AM

Some omolene + rice bran and Red Cell for my mare at home. Suits her just fine.

Sharpie 11-27-2013 01:11 PM

Like Verona said, selenium is key in pretty much all of the Pacific Northwest. If you feed the TC, make sure not to cut it down below their minimum recommended level or he won't be getting the selenium he needs. The TC 30% is a ration balancer, and meant to only be fed at a pound to a pound and a half per day, so even if it is 30% protein, that's 30% of a pound, or right about 5-8 oz. Compare that to a "normal" 12% feed fed at 5-10 lbs a day, which would give 9-20oz of protein per day, and you can see that even though the concentration in the 30% is higher, it is still not overloading them with protein when fed as intended. I would go with 1.5lbs per day- based off FeedXL, the TC 30% provides about 60% of a 1000lb horse's selenium requirement per pounf per day, and knowing how little the hay there has...

SorrelHorse 11-27-2013 02:27 PM

Mine is selenium deficient, so that's definitely a good thing to keep in mind. She won't go to work the same way unless she has something. I also give her a block that has selenium in it, and she licks it all the time.

tseluyu dylan 11-28-2013 01:45 AM

Great guys thank you! He gets about 1.75 lb of TC a day, split into two feelings. I'm glad I'm doing the right thing!

BearPony 12-10-2013 12:37 AM

I don't live in the PNW anymore, but I really loved the LMF line of feeds when I did. They have "something for everyone" it seemed. Their "Super Supplement" is particularly great for easy keepers or if you prefer the bulk of your horse's diet to be something like alfalfa pellets or beet pulp. Would be something to look into if you are interested in feeding minimal grain. Super Supplement - LMF Feeds

BlueHorse09 12-10-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BearPony (Post 4274729)
I don't live in the PNW anymore, but I really loved the LMF line of feeds when I did. They have "something for everyone" it seemed. Their "Super Supplement" is particularly great for easy keepers or if you prefer the bulk of your horse's diet to be something like alfalfa pellets or beet pulp. Would be something to look into if you are interested in feeding minimal grain. Super Supplement - LMF Feeds

I agree, my horse has done very well on the LMF Super Supplement. He filled out muscularly, and his hoof growth was phenomenal (you could see when I had started feeding the SS in his hoof). The amount of selenium is slightly higher than feeds from other brands. Its a west coast company, and from what I know, they have two different formulations of each of their feeds. One for the northwest, and one for the southwest. To be honest, my horse did not do well on the TC 30%. I switched him over from the SS for a few months. He lost muscle condition, and his coat became rough and dull. I'm also having issues feeding their "Lite" feed to my pre-cushings pony right now. It supposed to be a corn-free feed, and I can see that it contains some in the pellets (not to mention that I am fighting him hoof and nail to eat it, but as I digress). I will likely never buy TC again, unfortunately. Just my experience, though. If it works for your gelding, it may not be worth the switch :-).

verona1016 12-10-2013 04:29 PM

My horse has done really well on TC30, but I have to agree on the palatability. My horse was eating it, but sifting out his supplements; I thought the supplements were the problem and was thinking of putting them in a mash for him, but at around the same time I ended up having to temporarily switch to Empower Balance and suddenly my horse was licking his feeder clean, supplements and all. EB does smell a lot sweeter (which makes sense as it is also higher NSC- 14% compared to 9.8%), so not too surprising that he likes it more.

This week I'm trying him with a mix of TC30 and EB. He likes the EB better. I like the TC30 better. Hopefully we can compromise. :-)

BlueHorse09 12-10-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by verona1016 (Post 4278970)
My horse has done really well on TC30, but I have to agree on the palatability. My horse was eating it, but sifting out his supplements; I thought the supplements were the problem and was thinking of putting them in a mash for him, but at around the same time I ended up having to temporarily switch to Empower Balance and suddenly my horse was licking his feeder clean, supplements and all. EB does smell a lot sweeter (which makes sense as it is also higher NSC- 14% compared to 9.8%), so not too surprising that he likes it more.

This week I'm trying him with a mix of TC30 and EB. He likes the EB better. I like the TC30 better. Hopefully we can compromise. :-)

Can you get Purina's Enrich Plus? My aforementioned picky-eating pony ate it with gusto. He did pretty well on it too. I'm switching him back once he's done with the Lite . :-)


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