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flashy 07-31-2009 12:13 PM

Anyone who has a thoroughbred..
 
What do you guys feed your thoroughbreds? Like what kind of grain and how much etc.? I have trouble putting weight on my TB and was just wondering what you guys feed yours.. feel free to add a picture of your tb if you want :D
Thanks!

JustDressageIt 07-31-2009 12:28 PM

I have a hard keeping OTTB.
First, if your horse has trouble keeping weight on, please have the teeth floated. It is such a simple thing to fix and it can mean the difference between the horse gaining weight or not. Most OTTBs will have never had their teeth floated in their lives, so it is imperative to get that taken care of as soon as possible. If the teeth aren't breaking down the food properly, any extra feed you're giving him might just be passing through the gut because it can't get digested properly.
Secondly, get the horse on a regular deworming program. If the little buggers in the horse's system are eating all its food instead of the horse, you have a problem.
On to feed:
If at all possible, keep the horse on free choice hay, so the horse can pick and choose when he wants to eat, rather than being forced to gobble down as much as he can before his paddock mates get it.
The grain that put weight on Denny like none other is called "Enhance." It's a 22% fat, 12% protein feed, and it is amazing quality feed.
Lastly, consider putting him on a probiotic supplement. I myself prefer Biotic 8 by Omega Alpha, but there are many good supplements on the market.

September 19 2008 (when I bought him):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...eforeSmall.jpg

November 10, 2008:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ndbigsmall.jpg

June, 2009:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...y/P1040476.jpg

Sophie19 07-31-2009 12:29 PM

I feed my TB a mixture of oats and black oil sunflower seeds and he holds his weight really well. However when I was trying to but weight on him I supplemented his oats with a high fat pelted grain. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. It worked really well but was quite expensive. If I remember what it was called I will let you know.

luvs2ride1979 07-31-2009 12:31 PM

Some good information in this thread: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-heal...-better-32496/

When I owned my last full TB, he got 4 (heavy) flakes of Alfalfa hay a day, 2 flakes of Bermuda a day, a big 5-gal bucket full of soaked beet pulp, 1 lb of rice bran, and a vitamin supplement. NO GRAIN. He was 16.3h and kept his weight on beautifully, even when working hard (riding 5-6 days a week, 1-3 hours a day, jumping and trails). I lived in So California at the time, hence the mostly-alfalfa diet.

My last few half-TBs (here in Arkansas) have been on a similar diet: free choice bermuda/grass hay (at least 20-25 lbs a day, half of a small/light bale), 2-5 lbs of alfalfa pellets (less for maintenance, more for weight gain), 1/2 cup to 2 cup of fat (flax or rice bran), and a vitamin supplement, NO GRAIN.

Grain and many feeds tend to hype up TBs and other "hot" or "hard keeper" horses. This increases the metabolism, burns more energy, and makes them lose weight, even if you're giving them a TON of food. Taking them OFF grain and most feeds will help return that metabolism to normal, making weight gain easier!

When buying alfalfa pellets or beet pulp, make sure there is NO molasses and no animal fat. When looking for a vit/min supplement, look for one that is "complete" with high levels of vitamin e, magnesium, and amino acids. I have used, successfully, GrandVite, Select II, SmartVite Maintenance Grass (from smartpak), Uckele's Equi Base Grass, and I'm currently using Nutri-Plus++ (most complete of all of them).

My horses have done very well on a grain-free diet. They are calmer, healthier, do not need ANY extra supplements (improved feet and skin/coat), my mare's PMS is barely noticable (she used to be a real WITCH!), and they hold their proper weight more easily. My current TBxArab was a hard keeper and now keeps his weight on nicely with just 2 lbs of alfalfa pellets and 1/2 cup of flax!

themacpack 07-31-2009 12:31 PM

Our 4 yo Thoroughbred mare is on free-choice hay (it's an orchard, timothy, alfalfa mix that I absolutely love) and pasture 24/7. She also gets 2 lbs of beet pulp morning and night with 2 pounds of alfalfa pellets. We don't do "grain(meaning sweet feeds, straight oats, etc)" because it can be somewhat counterproductive in putting weight on a horse that already runs somewhat hot, such as the TB. Some suggested feeds from my feed guy also include using SafeChoice (Nutrena), Strategy, or 12% Horseman's Edge (can you tell he's a Nutrena dealer, lol). Really, though, for me it is HAY, HAY and HAY.
Of course the other things to consider would be teeth and/or worms.

flashy 07-31-2009 12:34 PM

i have had her teeth floated and she is on a regular de worming schedual. I have also taken a fecal sample to the vet to check for any additional parasites and everything turned out good, but still no weight gain. We are going to try hi fat hi fibre feed, has anyone else tried that? what did you think?

luvs2ride1979 07-31-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophie19 (Post 365626)
I feed my TB a mixture of oats and black oil sunflower seeds and he holds his weight really well. However when I was trying to but weight on him I supplemented his oats with a high fat pelted grain. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. It worked really well but was quite expensive. If I remember what it was called I will let you know.

I did have my Anglo on Oats for a while. They put weight on him nicely (along with alfalfa pellets and flax), but he was "boogery" in his attitude, lol.

luvs2ride1979 07-31-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 365632)
i have had her teeth floated and she is on a regular de worming schedual. I have also taken a fecal sample to the vet to check for any additional parasites and everything turned out good, but still no weight gain. We are going to try hi fat hi fibre feed, has anyone else tried that? what did you think?

It depends on the feed. I tried Ultium on my Anglo and he gained a little weight, but he turned in to a fire breathing monster, lol. I also had to feed him a LOT, like 8 lbs a day, along with his nearly free choice hay.

What is the brand and formula name?

flashy 07-31-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979 (Post 365637)
It depends on the feed. I tried Ultium on my Anglo and he gained a little weight, but he turned in to a fire breathing monster, lol. I also had to feed him a LOT, like 8 lbs a day, along with his nearly free choice hay.

What is the brand and formula name?


It is Purina Hi Fat Hi Fibre
http://www.agribrands.ca/Documents/E...Hi%20Fibre.pdf
There is the details on the feed.. she is moving to a new barn tonight. A place that has better hay, and better grass so hopefully that helps as well

luvs2ride1979 07-31-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 365642)
It is Purina Hi Fat Hi Fibre
http://www.agribrands.ca/Documents/E...Hi%20Fibre.pdf
There is the details on the feed.. she is moving to a new barn tonight. A place that has better hay, and better grass so hopefully that helps as well

I'm not a big fan of Purina feeds. They're usually not fix-formula feeds, meaning their ingredients and values can change. This feed doesn't list its ingredients either.

You could try it, but watch her behavior, weight, and hoof/coat condition. If you notice her become more high strung, spookier, or more "mare-y" when in heat, then take her off.

Make sure you feed at the bag's recommended levels of the feed. If you feed less, she won't be getting enough nutrition and you'll need to add a vitamin supplement. Talk to your new barn owner/manager about giving her extra hay.


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