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snoggle 07-31-2009 11:06 PM

Training book suggestions
 
I am a first time horse owner. I've had Honey, my very docile TWH, for 2 months. She is 3 and was green broke when I got her. She usually does very well on our trail rides, but mostly because she happily follows the others. I want to work on very basic stuff with her - whoa quickly and consistently, speeding up consistently, etc. I've gotten some training books (Clinton Anderson's Downunder Horsemanship, Easy Gaited Horses: Gentle, humane methods for training and riding gaited pleasure horses by Lee Ziegler), but my impression is that they are more for a horse that already has some basic training, but needs some work at more advanced stuff. I need suggestions for a couple of books on teaching the most basic of skills.
I live in an area where there aren't any real trainers around and the few people who would help me train her would be really rough and I do not approve of their training methods (every horse my "horse expert" neighbor gets on tries to buck him, I swear.). I do not have a lot of riding experience myself (some lessons as a kid, my PE class in college :lol:, and riding friend's and neighbor's horses casually).
I've figured out that I need to do lots of ground work with her and have started with that. Her ground manners are really pretty good.
Books I'm considering (but I can't afford to buy them all):
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764570994/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance - Gincy Self Bucklin
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1555662498/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance - Mark Rashid
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764540858/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance - Gincy Self Bucklin
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1587365413/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance - Michael Hockemeyer

Okay, I guess the first few are more philisophical - but they sound helpful - which one would be best of the first 3 and is the 4th one good - or is there something better?

I did not like Clinton Anderson's use of the "handy stick" to "tap" the horse to get her to move away. Honey is so laid back and spookless that when I tried it, she wouldn't move away unless I'd "tapped" really hard - which I won't do. It just seems strange that he wants you to use the "handy stick" to smack the horse to get them to move, but rub the horse as a reward. I just feel like its sending very mixed messages.

Thanks a bunch!

Marecare 08-01-2009 09:41 AM

For basic training I would recommend "If I were to train a horse" by Jack Brainard.

For more knowledge about gaited horses check out Larry Whitesell and his videos.



JACK BRAINARD ADVANCED HORSEMANSHIP

Larry Whitesell Gaited Horsemanship

Spirithorse 08-01-2009 12:53 PM

You might consider looking into Parelli. His Seven Games are an excellent place to start as far as ground work.

Sunny06 08-01-2009 02:08 PM

Just thought I'd add. You can't be 'trained' from a book. You can get good tips and stuff that can help you, but the best stuff comes when you try it and from experience. Learning in action kind of thing. Does that make sense? I'm not poo-pooing learning from books, I'm just saying that when you learn out of experience, it sticks with you longer.

Vidaloco 08-01-2009 04:33 PM

I haven't read them, but my husband just loved Don West's books
Paca Paca A Sure Cure For The Trots and Horse Handling-Horse Sense.
He says he got more out of those books about gaited horses than all clinicians he has ever watched.
He talks about the Peruvian Paso and Paso Fino horses but the information can be used on any gaited horse.
I have read the Have Saddle Will Travel low impact trail riding and horse camping book, its full of great information for when you want to rough it with your horse.
Don is a great guy and many times when you call to order something he is the one who answers the phone. He is a wealth of information and a good writer as well.

MyBoyPuck 08-01-2009 08:03 PM

I like "Starting the Young Horse", but sorry, I can't remember the author. Regardless, just remember the horse's can't read the books. Yes, use them for guidance, but ultimately it's up to you to decide which methods work best for your horse.

anna13 08-01-2009 09:12 PM

I love Rick Lamb.

chevaliernr 08-01-2009 09:42 PM

I have this book: http://www.amazon.com/Power-Positive-Horse-Training-Equestrian/dp/0764578197
I haven't had the opportunity to try out any of the techniques consistently, but it gives you the basics and encourages patience/effective methods. Rather than punishment and rewards, it focuses on negative/positive reinforcement. It gets a little psychological, which I found helpful. Most of its methods are pretty basic and easy to follow, which is what I think you're looking for.

snoggle 08-01-2009 10:07 PM

Thanks so much for all of the suggestions thus far. I'll start checking them out on Amazon.
It does take experience and I realize that I just have to try things out, but I need the books for a little guidance - to get me started. I tried Clinton Anderson's ideas and figured out that they just don't work for this horse (she's so laid back and spookless the "tapping" he recommends just won't make her move the way he says it will.)
This forum has been a godsend. I kinda feel all alone out here, but this helps a lot.

anna13 08-02-2009 12:15 AM

Amazon has really good reviews, check those out.


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