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TaraLovesBreaker 08-01-2009 02:35 PM

I keep falling off jumping
lately i have been losing balance and falling off jumping..from getting refuses ...if someone could give me any tips how to fix this please mail me or reply to this...also another problem is my jumping postion is gone very bad from this any ideas how ta fix it??

anrz 08-01-2009 02:43 PM

I would make sure that you have your heels down all the time- when your heels come up, it makes you insecure and could be why you are losing your balance. It's hard to tell without pictures because I can't see what you need to fix. I would do lots of two-point at the walk, trot, and canter to solidify it. Also make sure you aren't going into your two-point before your horse leaves the ground; if you are in your two-point and your horse refuses, you are in a more vulnerable position for a fall, especially if your position needs work.

ilovelucy91 08-01-2009 03:04 PM

Looking down or straight at the jump can also cause refusals.

TaraLovesBreaker 08-01-2009 04:21 PM

i always make sure i have my heels down and yes my postion realy needs work since i have had al these falls look at my favourites horses page breaker and look at my pics

TaraLovesBreaker 08-01-2009 04:23 PM

and reply too... ilovelucy....yea wen i 1st started getting these refusels i did look at the jump but i stopped and i still get refuesles

cheply 08-01-2009 06:01 PM

How high are you jumping?
Chances are you've already done this.. but maybe you should start back at square one and practice just going over small cross jumps.
and then slowly slowly slowly raise the jumps just a tiny bit at a time once you're confident in your position and don't get refusals.

chevaliernr 08-01-2009 09:12 PM

Does this only happen on your horse? Quite a few horses at my barn will refuse anything 2'3" and above if you drop them before the jump (aka get into position to early, anticipate the jump, etc). Those horses you need to ride to the base of them jump and stay with them every second. And I would advise looking through the jump or past it rather than at it. I find that staring at the jump encourages anticipation. Let the horse jump to you.

Definitely work on your position during flatwork, lots of two-pointing, stirrupless work. I don't know how high you're jumping, but go back to a height where you're comfortable and won't be getting constant refusals and solidify your position before moving up any higher.

SFMoneyMarket 08-01-2009 09:33 PM

I haven't read any of the above posts, so sorry if I'm repeating anyone.

The main cause I can think of for you to fall of when a horse refuses a fence is that you are getting ahead of him. This could be the cause of him refusing as well, because if you are putting forward pressure on him while he's trying to lift off of the ground, it makes it difficult for him to pick up his front end. Try really digging your heels DOWN, and really sitting deep in the saddle to the fences. DO NOT start to go into your two-point until you feel him start to pick himself up over the jump. Let him push you into your half seat. Sitting deep encourages him to go over the jump, and also gives you more balance to stay on in case he does refuse, also, you can feel him start to stall out which gives you more of a chance to really urge him on over the fence.

If it is really becoming an issue, I would stop jumping for a little while and work on strengthining your legs and upper body position by doing two-point at the walk, trot, and canter, and over ground poles. Then I would start over little jumps again, just until you both gain your confidence back.

I'm speaking from real life experience here =] This used to be a huge problem for me.

Good luck!

TroubledTB 08-02-2009 01:13 AM

From your pics, you look like your getting completely left behind, you have no release, and this is not the typical duck ahead before the jump and fall behind over it because your motion isn't centered with his, you look like you never really get into the two point, but are standing up over the fences. Are you jumping on your own or with an instructor? If you don't have eyes on the ground, I wouldn't suggest jumping, and I mean accurate eyes, intermediate riders only, and possibly exactly mirroring your last instruction, same course, same amount of time devoted to jumping, same jumps, etc. If you are recieving no instruction, really working on releasing will help. I learned to jump when instructed, and it wasn't until much later in life I was allowed to jump unattended. If you are getting instruction, I would say limiting your jumping to just then, will help the process move quicker, rather than slower, allowing yourself not to undo the progress you made with your instructor. I can't say much more without knowing more about your exact scenario.

RideroftheWind 08-04-2009 10:18 AM

Keep your heels down; it helps you keep your balence. Make sure you can always feel where your horse's head is so he knows you're in control (but don't pull). Sit on your seat bones.
When you aproach the jump, keep a steady pace (don't let your horse quicken or slow). Sit really deep as you aproach, and look ahead. Give an encouraging squeeze before the jump. Slacken the reins just a tad so you don't hit your horse in the mouth by accident. Wait until you feel your horse rising under you to 2-point (don't get ahead).

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