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heartshunters 01-15-2007 12:50 PM

Changing bits?
I have a hypothetical question. If you have two TWH's that you are changing from Saddle Seat to English, and they use a bit that is something like a twist gag bit, what english bit would you want to use them in? Both horses are calm and slow in the bit. So would you want to start them in something easy like a Snaffle or something stronger like a Pelham or Kimberwick? Remember, it's just a hypothtical question. I'm just curious after reading something on another BB. :)

barnrat 01-15-2007 12:54 PM

I would use a snaffle..I dont use more then I have too....

Does that make since? If a snaffle works why a harder bit...??

heartshunters 01-15-2007 12:56 PM

Sorry if I explained a little confusing. The horses have only been rode in a twist gag bit thing, never anything else. So would a snaffle be enough, or would you need something stronger? Both horses are only green broke.

barnrat 01-15-2007 01:15 PM

I would always try a cheap snaffle, there only like 2 dollars......(would not try an expensive snaffle in case it does not work good.) If those dont work to well then you can use a harsher bit.....But always be careful when handeling the mouth.....I dont think there would be a bit that could hurt a horse really bad without the hands of an owner that are harsh.

heartshunters 01-15-2007 01:29 PM

That's what I thought. As I said before, just a hypothetical question.

Raini 01-15-2007 04:50 PM

I would go with a snaffle. They might even appreciate the softness. Bigger bits are only for refinement. I would get them to where they ride perfect in a snaffle it just makes it easier. They are calm and sound in that bit so I don't think they would have a problem with a snaffle. Pelhams and Kimberwicks are leverage bits which I never really recommend.

kristy 01-16-2007 10:16 AM

Oh goodness.

I suggest a french link snaffle. No buckling action and extremely mild. I wouldn't suggest buying a very inexpensive bit - you get what you pay for. A decently priced bit shouldn't have any rough edges or blemeshes like a very inexpensive one may and will last a little while if liked. Expect the horses to be pretty non-responsive when transitioning, they will be looking for the harshness of the gag. Over a couple of leasons, the horse's mouth softens, they accept and it is a much better picture, in my opinion.

barnrat 01-16-2007 02:36 PM

Kristy, I only recomended a inexpensive bit to see how it went in the horses mouth...I know alot of people who just buy inexpensive snaffles to try a snaffle in a horses mouth...I use an inexpensive bit on mike and there is nothing wrong with it...I have met a horse that actually chewed threw a 100 dollar bit...thats alot of money..I have never met a horse to chew threw an inexpensive horse.

kristy 01-16-2007 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by barnrat
I have never met a horse to chew threw an inexpensive horse.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think I have.

No, my point was that many very cheaply made bits have rough edges and protruding seams. These can be quite harsh on the mouth, even leading to sores, cuts or general pain. I wouldn't want the horse to get the "wrong idea" due to the blemeshes of a very cheap snaffle. Granted, not all cheap snaffles have this, but I use it as a general rule. I normally borrow a bit, or when I pruchase one, spend about 30-45 dollars. I think you often get what you pay for, but there are many many exceptions to the rule. I'm cheap, I promise. :wink:

barnrat 01-17-2007 12:19 AM

either borrow or thouroughly look at the bit your buying.. :D

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