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Tennessee 08-27-2009 05:25 PM

I Caught It...
So, I got the flu. Uggh. The bad thing about it is, we have two confirmed swine flu cases in my school(and there are only about 600 people in my school) and I may be the next. The test for H1N1 is very expensive, so I am being treated as a regular flu patient.

What sucks is, they may have to close down the school for a week or two. And what really sucks is the fact that I am the germophobe of the school. I would wash my hands AT LEAST 10 times a day, and avoided too much contact with others. I am on vitamins, and I still got it.

So, I guess I will be pretty active on here for the next few days.

lizzie_magic 08-27-2009 06:12 PM

I hope you get better soon. I was sick a few weeks ago and my mum thinks it was swine flu but it wasn't actually very bad.

TaMMa89 08-27-2009 06:32 PM

Oh my... Hope it isn't swine flu.

What kind of symptoms do you have? Info that we've got over here tells that swine flu is causes symptoms like hack, sore throat, high sudden fever and pain in muscles. Sometimes nausea or other digestion issues. All the symptoms can be also very mild. On the other hand, there are always lot of different flu viruses going around so it can be also an "ordinary" flu.

If you think you perhaps have a swine flu, please stay at home so you don't spread it more.

And then, last but not least, get well soon! :D.

Tennessee 08-27-2009 06:47 PM

Tamma - I have all of those symptoms excluding the high fever(mine is only 99 something). 0.0

And the test for Swine Flu is $400, so we have to check with my insurance before I can take it.

The doctor said I will be out the rest of this week and maybe next week if I have H1N1.

RegalCharm 08-27-2009 07:00 PM

also you don't want them treating you for the swine flu if it is something else

last week or the week before some girl died and they thought it was swine flu
and was treating her for the flu.

turned out to be tonsilitists. I am thinking alot of drs. will just assume
it is the swine flu because of all the hype the government is putting out.

and it is not as deadly as they say it is. Like what thousands of people in the U.S. were supposed to have it alread and very few died.

now in a country where medical care is not good, the mortality rate could be
high. the World Health Organization, is putting out alot of scare tactics

and to add. so if they do have a vaccine that works, likely within 6 months
the virus will mutate and the vaccine will not work.

TaMMa89 08-27-2009 07:05 PM


Hope you can find it out and have enough time to heal/rest.

JustDressageIt 08-27-2009 07:09 PM

It could be the excessive cleaning that's doing you in. People that wash their hands and avoid germs like the plague (terrible comparison, sorry!) are at just as high a risk as those who don't bother with personal hygene at all.
The theory is that if you don't allow your body to become exposed to germs on a regular basis, without being too dirty, your body doesn't know what to do when you do have something wrong.
I don't use antibacterial soap. Antibacterial soap kills 99.9% of germs. Well, that 0.1% is strong enough to survive; they're going to reproduce and form a new strain that we can't kill.. then what? We're screwed!!

Go play in the dirt a little everyone!!

Tennessee, I do hope you get better soon, but please rethink the whole germaphobe thing; it really is not good for your body.

RegalCharm 08-27-2009 07:21 PM

Nick Miller

August 4, 2009
THE H1N1 flu virus has mutated into a form resistant to the Australian-developed antiviral drug Relenza.
Researchers said the mutation posed little threat to humans yet: the virus was not a strain of swine or bird flu, and it was found only in the lab, not in patients.
There are no known strains of Relenza-resistant influenza in humans. In contrast, virtually all the flu cases in the US and Europe last year, much of Australia’s seasonal flu and even a few cases of swine flu have proven resistant to the other leading antiviral drug, Tamiflu.
A team at North Melbourne’s WHO Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza analysed 391 influenza A(H1N1) viruses found in humans in Australasia and South-East Asia between 2006 and 2008, before the spread of swine flu.
Nine of the viruses had a previously unseen mutation that made them 300 times more resistant to zanamivir (sold as Relenza), according to results reported in the Journal of Virology.
The mutation was not found when the specimens were taken from patients, only later when the viruses multiplied in the lab.
‘‘That could mean there were very low levels of this mutation in the patient,’’ said Dr Ian Barr, one of the researchers involved and deputy director of the WHO centre. ‘‘We wouldn’t say it’s a clinical problem, but it’s an interesting finding. We know [the mutation] can survive, and it’s stable.’’
The recent spread of Tamiflu-resistant A(H1N1) viruses showed that antiviral-resistant viruses could spread rapidly and travel widely around the world, the study authors warned.
A spokeswoman for Biota, which developed Relenza, said the discovery was ‘‘not clinically relevant, because it’s an in vitro discovery — there’s no evidence that this mutation has infected patients’’.
A spokeswoman for Relenza manufacturer GSK said the ‘‘clinical significance is yet to be determined’’.
GSK announced a week ago that it planned to triple production of Relenza in the face of the spread of swine flu and rising demand from government stockpiles.
Last week Japan identified its third case of Tamiflu-resistant swine flu, making a total of six worldwide.
Scientists have warned that the massive worldwide use of Tamiflu since the outbreak of swine flu could hasten the spread of resistant mutations. No Relenza-resistant swine flu has yet been found.

TaMMa89 08-27-2009 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by RegalCharm (Post 389405)
and to add. so if they do have a vaccine that works, likely within 6 months
the virus will mutate and the vaccine will not work.

Over here they test a swine flu vaccine with infants just now. There was no lack of volunteers when they started the test. Have to say sometimes I doubt if that's a good idea at all. I mean, it seems (at least just now) that the flu isn't so bad & mortal like they predicted. I don't know how fast they developed the vaccine but I think it have had to be fast because this whole the thing is so new. And that arouses a question about safety issues. Generally I've nothing against vaccines, I'm mainly for them but I think utility have to be bigger than possible side effects (or at least as equal). But what is it with a vaccine like this?

Plus, I've heard they wouldn't use this vaccine in Finland later. Cannot still be sure.

CrazyH0rse 08-27-2009 07:32 PM

2 Billion Infected? WHO Stokes Swine Flu Fear

The World Health Organization may have inadvertently triggered a new wave of fear over the threat of a swine flu pandemic today by suggesting that up to 2 billion people could be infected if the current outbreak worsens. technicians at the New York City Public Health Laboratory demonstrate one of the steps involved...
Lab technicians at the New York City Public Health Laboratory demonstrate one of the steps involved in identifying the swine flu virus. As drug makers prepare to possibly churn out millions of doses of swine flu vaccine, health officials and doctors mull over the pros and cons of developing such a vaccine.
(ABC News/AP)
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"If the situation continues to evolve and the virus does become established in other countries, and we do move into a pandemic, we would expect the virus to infect many people," said WHO chief Keiji Fukuda at a press conference today. "Perhaps a third of the world's population could be infected with this virus, based on previous pandemic."
Fukuda quickly noted to reporters that he was making statement based on data from past pandemics and was not a predicting what would happen with the current swine flu outbreak.
"I do not want you to walk out of here saying that there is an estimate that 2 billion will get infected in the next year or so," he said. "Please do not interpret this as a prediction for the future."
The comment immediately ignited debate among infectious disease experts.

"I think that WHO could serve the world health better by providing a more evidence-based, sensible 'benchmark' of H1N1 infection," said Ed Hsu, associate professor of public health informatics at the University of Texas School of Health Information Sciences and School of Public Health. He argued that the 2 billion figure, based on past pandemics, does not take into account recent public health improvements. Moreover, his own research has suggested that the rate of swine flu infection in the United States may have already stabilized.

"One could reasonably question the reliability of WHO's statement of mass infection," he said. "By making such statement without strong backing WHO may risk putting its accountability on the line."
On the other side of the argument is Dr. Christian Sandrock, assistant professor of clinical medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the UC Davis School of Medicine. He said the numbers cited by Fukuda are less important than the overall message, which is that we should be prepared for a second wave of swine flu later this year.
"I think this is an important discussion -- not the numbers, but the likelihood of larger spread in the second wave," he said, adding that such a discussion is crucial for vaccine development and other issues of preparedness. "Much better to do this now than later."

Sorry to de-rail I do hope you get better soon :)

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