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nikelodeon79 02-08-2014 10:54 AM

Tubby TB
 
I'm planning on going to look at this 8 year old OTTB as a potential purchase. He is 15.2 hands and had seven starts. He's been off the track since 2010.

These are the only pics I have at the moment:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/striker2.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...es/striker.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...kersaddle2.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ikersaddle.jpg

jaydee 02-08-2014 11:24 AM

subbing - will come back!!!

boldnheart 02-08-2014 04:16 PM

For some reason I don't like his hip. Maybe it's the way he's standing.... In all the pictures. His withers seem a bit high and kind of steep. He's got nice feet though! What do you plan on using him for?

SullysRider 02-08-2014 04:33 PM

I'm not very good at conformation, but as far as TB's go he's a brick house. Feet look very good for a TB. His shoulder is a bit steep. His back is nice and short. His neck looks long and under/wrongly muscled. As far as legs I stink at that part and he's not standing square in any of them so I'll leave that to someone else. Judging by the first picture, his tail set looks a little low, and possibly his croup a little steep. But in other pictures his hip looks nice and round.

nikelodeon79 02-08-2014 10:23 PM

I'm planning on doing mostly fun riding: arena work, trail, dressage.

I'm going to see him Friday, so will get better pics and video then. Thanks for the responses!
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tinyliny 02-08-2014 10:27 PM

I agree with Sully; he's solid looking. take off some weight, add some muscle, and he'll be a nice looking horse.

Elana 02-09-2014 11:45 AM

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Well, here is what I get. First of all, I would have a chiro check this horse's back and a vet check his stifles. In every photo he stands with at least one hind foot well back and both hind feet camped out.. and front legs and feet camped under. That says to me he is doing something to take pressure off his sacro-iliac area of the back bOR off a stifle that is not right.

In the photo attached, notice first the arrow at his neck. Right now he is fat.. so every thing is smooth. I expect when he loses weight he may develop a dip in front of his withers. His top line looks good but there is a dip behind his withers that will get worse with weight coming off. If he retains the smooth coupling to his hind quarters that will be very nice. His tail set is correct and he has good bone.

His shoulder appears adequate tho the humerus angle from point of elbow to point of shoulder appears low. This is likely due to the fact that he is standing with his front legs under himself. His hind legs being stretched out make him appear nearly level.. but even with that he is still down hill in build. His stifle is too far back and his hind leg is over straight thru the hocks as a result. He is actually quite post legged behind.. but again, due to the stance with one hind leg so far back and both hinds back it is hard to tell this.

It also appears to me that his hind toes point in which would indicate he may be bow legged behind. His near hind is rotated with the toe pointing in. Watch him walk.. and make sure as he walks over the hind foot that the foot does not rotate on the ground noticeably. If it does, have a vet check his medial collateral ligaments of the stifle on that side as such rotation can indicate they are torn. The way he is standing has me concerned as well (such tears can occur from being cast in a stall or trailer or falling on slippery ground when the horse is out just playing hard). I have experience with this.

nitapitalou 02-09-2014 12:01 PM

I wonder if he wasn't set up to stand as he is to help hide a few flaws.

With the sharpness of the angle on his shoulder and how posty his hind legs are, I would not like to try to sit his trot. I have a feeling he is rough.

Though if you are not planning on showing, sometimes a great personality goes a long way to make up for what is lacking in confirmation. : )

nikelodeon79 02-09-2014 12:43 PM

This is a reputable rescue and he's being fostered by a vet... so I don't think they're purposefully hiding things. I will definitely get better pics and get a PPE, paying closer attention to the things mentioned here, if I do buy him.

Thanks!

Golden Horse 02-09-2014 12:58 PM

:rofl: A tubby TB eh? I should snap him up quick, everyone knows that TB's are naturally hard keepers and you simply can't keep weight on them! Soorry pet peeve.

As to the, yeah well, pics are what they are, and they are frozen moments in time, but you do wonder why he isn't square in any of them. Certainly worth going to look and ride him, see how he goes, a horse with a sound mind, who is comfortable to ride is always worth something. After that you have to dig deeper, and with this guy I would dig some more, but some conformational issues would not worry me for a pleasure horse, rather than a serious competition horse.

Certainly have a PPE if you think he is the right one having ridden him, you don't want to be buying trouble, BUT for me, it is easier sometimes to keep a less than perfect horse sound...shoeing, supplements, turn out, less turn out, etc, than it is to keep a perfectly conformed 100% sound horse sane, if it is an idiot.


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